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		By: John G. Spragge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92086</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92038&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ymarsakar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: In the universe I live in, a &quot;threat&quot; can only come from someone who has both the ability and the intention to do you harm. For the sake of argument, we&#039;ll assume the intention. Please identify the party with the ability. Please identify the nation with the ability to sustain a trans-oceanic invasion fleet against some relatively simple counter-measures the Canadian government could undertake. You say we don&#039;t have the ability to guard our borders, but against what threat? What naval power (aside, of course, from the United States) has the necessary transports, open-ocean landing craft, sea-control ships, and supply ships to land enough troops to sustain an invasion of Canada that could overthrow our government?

The other issues you identify involve purely domestic political questions, and we have a hundred and seventy one year tradition (longer than your own) of solving our political problems without violence (longer than that of the United States), so when it comes to our internal politics, we need absolutely no help from the US military. That leaves and external aggressor. So please identify the country we have to worry about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><a href="http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92038" rel="nofollow">Ymarsakar</a></i>: In the universe I live in, a &#8220;threat&#8221; can only come from someone who has both the ability and the intention to do you harm. For the sake of argument, we&#8217;ll assume the intention. Please identify the party with the ability. Please identify the nation with the ability to sustain a trans-oceanic invasion fleet against some relatively simple counter-measures the Canadian government could undertake. You say we don&#8217;t have the ability to guard our borders, but against what threat? What naval power (aside, of course, from the United States) has the necessary transports, open-ocean landing craft, sea-control ships, and supply ships to land enough troops to sustain an invasion of Canada that could overthrow our government?</p>
<p>The other issues you identify involve purely domestic political questions, and we have a hundred and seventy one year tradition (longer than your own) of solving our political problems without violence (longer than that of the United States), so when it comes to our internal politics, we need absolutely no help from the US military. That leaves and external aggressor. So please identify the country we have to worry about.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I also deleted the comment you tried to make after the banning. Interesting that you managed to change your IP number so quickly.&lt;/b&gt;

Maybe he&#039;s on a university network?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I also deleted the comment you tried to make after the banning. Interesting that you managed to change your IP number so quickly.</b></p>
<p>Maybe he&#8217;s on a university network?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92038</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe John thinks he doesn&#039;t need the US, that perhaps Alaska will protect Canada from the status of &quot;low hanging fruit&quot;.

&lt;b&gt;But, I’m guessing you’re so over-taken by Obama Derangement Syndrome that you didn’t even think to do basic research.&lt;/b&gt;

I don&#039;t know what school teaches logic that says Obama didn&#039;t say so because there&#039;s a quote by McCain that said similar things concerning Georgia and the UN but I&#039;d like to know which one for it&#039;ll be good at indoctrination.

Obama and his ODS supporters will be needing such resources in the time soon to come.

&lt;b&gt;In my universe, the United States has virtually no troops in Canada, the visiting forces stationed here have no role in aiding the civil power, we have mutual defence arrangements, and Canada has, in any case, no enemies with either the interest or the means to make an attack on us that could bring down our government. 

....

So tell me about the universe you live in. In what way does Canada depend on American military force to sustain our government where you live?&lt;/b&gt;

It is guaranteed that you live in a different universe, John. A parallel one that touches upon the verse the Leftists live on, true, but your own since you&#039;re from Canada, not Europe, and Canada has their own way of seeing and doing things.

As for telling you Canada&#039;s reliance on the US military for 80% of the bulk freight traded between nations via the high seas, that&#039;s not something of an attack on Canada the &quot;patria&quot; for all other nations rely upon the US Navy to shed the treasure and blood to keep their merchant marines safe from pirates and other threats.

In our world, John, national boundaries are kept solely by the use of force or the threat of it. In your world, John, the United Nations and the international brotherhood sustains national boundaries in a sort of stasis with the only threat being from US invasions.

This means that Canada can sustain their social welfare programs by cutting their military to an infinitesimal size compared to what would be required to actually protect Canadian borders or sea trade. Even still, Canada has problems paying for such programs or they have internal resentment towards provinces like Quebec or the capital because provinces like Manitoba or Alberta pay a disproportionate share of the costs of government while having less (proportional) representation in the government of Canada due to population size disenfranchisement.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticspace.com/canada2008/2008/09/nuclear-energy-election-issue-in-alberta/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Without the US&lt;/a&gt; as both an ally and military protector, John, the nation of Canada would have a far larger military and a far larger national security risk from both the NW and the South. You would be concerned more about land grabs and destabilization than over internal energy matters like carbon emissions or CAND.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe John thinks he doesn&#8217;t need the US, that perhaps Alaska will protect Canada from the status of &#8220;low hanging fruit&#8221;.</p>
<p><b>But, I’m guessing you’re so over-taken by Obama Derangement Syndrome that you didn’t even think to do basic research.</b></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what school teaches logic that says Obama didn&#8217;t say so because there&#8217;s a quote by McCain that said similar things concerning Georgia and the UN but I&#8217;d like to know which one for it&#8217;ll be good at indoctrination.</p>
<p>Obama and his ODS supporters will be needing such resources in the time soon to come.</p>
<p><b>In my universe, the United States has virtually no troops in Canada, the visiting forces stationed here have no role in aiding the civil power, we have mutual defence arrangements, and Canada has, in any case, no enemies with either the interest or the means to make an attack on us that could bring down our government. </p>
<p>&#8230;.</p>
<p>So tell me about the universe you live in. In what way does Canada depend on American military force to sustain our government where you live?</b></p>
<p>It is guaranteed that you live in a different universe, John. A parallel one that touches upon the verse the Leftists live on, true, but your own since you&#8217;re from Canada, not Europe, and Canada has their own way of seeing and doing things.</p>
<p>As for telling you Canada&#8217;s reliance on the US military for 80% of the bulk freight traded between nations via the high seas, that&#8217;s not something of an attack on Canada the &#8220;patria&#8221; for all other nations rely upon the US Navy to shed the treasure and blood to keep their merchant marines safe from pirates and other threats.</p>
<p>In our world, John, national boundaries are kept solely by the use of force or the threat of it. In your world, John, the United Nations and the international brotherhood sustains national boundaries in a sort of stasis with the only threat being from US invasions.</p>
<p>This means that Canada can sustain their social welfare programs by cutting their military to an infinitesimal size compared to what would be required to actually protect Canadian borders or sea trade. Even still, Canada has problems paying for such programs or they have internal resentment towards provinces like Quebec or the capital because provinces like Manitoba or Alberta pay a disproportionate share of the costs of government while having less (proportional) representation in the government of Canada due to population size disenfranchisement.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.democraticspace.com/canada2008/2008/09/nuclear-energy-election-issue-in-alberta/" rel="nofollow">Without the US</a> as both an ally and military protector, John, the nation of Canada would have a far larger military and a far larger national security risk from both the NW and the South. You would be concerned more about land grabs and destabilization than over internal energy matters like carbon emissions or CAND.</p>
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		By: John Spragge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92020</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Spragge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92015&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sergey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: First, I don&#039;t believe Muslims &quot;behave the same&quot; everywhere, second, I see no reason why the Muslim immigrants who come to Canada next year will behave any differently from those who came a year ago, or five or ten or thirty years ago. 

But it doesn&#039;t have any relevance anyway. You still haven&#039;t come close to showing that we face any danger, internal or external, from which the United States protects us, or from which only the United States can protect us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><a href="http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92015" rel="nofollow">sergey</a></i>: First, I don&#8217;t believe Muslims &#8220;behave the same&#8221; everywhere, second, I see no reason why the Muslim immigrants who come to Canada next year will behave any differently from those who came a year ago, or five or ten or thirty years ago. </p>
<p>But it doesn&#8217;t have any relevance anyway. You still haven&#8217;t come close to showing that we face any danger, internal or external, from which the United States protects us, or from which only the United States can protect us.</p>
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		By: sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92015</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait a year or two, with thousand new Muslims immigrants flow into the country, and you will be in the same situations as Britain, having thousands known terrorist operatives at large. Everywhere they behave the same, getting radicalized in mosques and establishing terror cells. There are no reasons for them to behave differently in Canada.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a year or two, with thousand new Muslims immigrants flow into the country, and you will be in the same situations as Britain, having thousands known terrorist operatives at large. Everywhere they behave the same, getting radicalized in mosques and establishing terror cells. There are no reasons for them to behave differently in Canada.</p>
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		By: John G. Spragge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-92001</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John G. Spragge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-91969&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sergey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;: The only &quot;plots&quot; I know of to behead Canada&#039;s Prime Minister involved seventeen very foolish young men who liked running around in the woods with paintball guns and talking big. Canadian law enforcement authorities dealt with them without any need for outside assistance. Do you have any specific evidence of a terrorist plot the United States foiled that Canadians could (and did) not deal with easily on our own?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><a href="http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-91969" rel="nofollow">Sergey</a></i>: The only &#8220;plots&#8221; I know of to behead Canada&#8217;s Prime Minister involved seventeen very foolish young men who liked running around in the woods with paintball guns and talking big. Canadian law enforcement authorities dealt with them without any need for outside assistance. Do you have any specific evidence of a terrorist plot the United States foiled that Canadians could (and did) not deal with easily on our own?</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-91969</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 11:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is very hard to take seriously anybody who during his campaign made so many U-turns on any issue he advanced. To be listened to is a privilege, not a right, and Obama has not yet achieved anything to convince me that he deserved to be listened to. He is a creature of David Axelrod, well-known image-maker, and there are light years between Obama rhetoric and his biography. Why should anybody hear speech-writer&#039;s drivel and perceive it as a real thing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very hard to take seriously anybody who during his campaign made so many U-turns on any issue he advanced. To be listened to is a privilege, not a right, and Obama has not yet achieved anything to convince me that he deserved to be listened to. He is a creature of David Axelrod, well-known image-maker, and there are light years between Obama rhetoric and his biography. Why should anybody hear speech-writer&#8217;s drivel and perceive it as a real thing?</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-91968</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To John Spragge: Today pirates are terrorists, mostly muslims, and they did plan to kidnap and behead premier-minister of Canada. Thousands of them were killed in Iraq, their best cadres. This way USA and Canada were protected and still are protected from serious terrorist attack on their soil. This is actually very underestimated triumph of Bush doctrine: after 9/11 everybody expected repeat of these horrors in nearby future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To John Spragge: Today pirates are terrorists, mostly muslims, and they did plan to kidnap and behead premier-minister of Canada. Thousands of them were killed in Iraq, their best cadres. This way USA and Canada were protected and still are protected from serious terrorist attack on their soil. This is actually very underestimated triumph of Bush doctrine: after 9/11 everybody expected repeat of these horrors in nearby future.</p>
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		By: Hong		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-91801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 05:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s very hard to treat Obama seriously when he makes immature cracks about Nancy Reagan in his very first press conference! Apology or not, it&#039;s a sign of things to come.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very hard to treat Obama seriously when he makes immature cracks about Nancy Reagan in his very first press conference! Apology or not, it&#8217;s a sign of things to come.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/11/05/jules-crittenden/#comment-91783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[someguy: by the way, in case you wonder why you&#039;ve been banned and the worst of your comments deleted (I left the rest), it&#039;s not for disagreement.  It&#039;s for coming on only to insult people.  Disagreement is perfectly okay without the snark.

I also deleted the comment you tried to make after the banning.  Interesting that you managed to change your IP number so quickly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>someguy: by the way, in case you wonder why you&#8217;ve been banned and the worst of your comments deleted (I left the rest), it&#8217;s not for disagreement.  It&#8217;s for coming on only to insult people.  Disagreement is perfectly okay without the snark.</p>
<p>I also deleted the comment you tried to make after the banning.  Interesting that you managed to change your IP number so quickly.</p>
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