Comments on: Now ‘”Socialist” is just a code word for Black, even if the Black person happens to be a Socialist https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/ A blog about political change, among other things Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:55:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Mohamed https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-765560 Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:55:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-765560 Nice try, but you completely omit the CONCLUSION. Seems a bit inportamt if you want to argue tax policy differences.C. Comparison of the Two PlansIn 2009, Senator Obama’s plan would reduce the effective marginal tax rate for far more households than would the McCain plan. This is true both overall, and for all income classes….In fact, the Obama plan would raise marginal rates for about three-quarters of taxpayers making more than $1 million whereas the McCain plan would leave rates unchanged for 95 percent of those taxpayers (figure 2). Overall, the Obama plan would raise EMTRs for 15 percent of taxpayers, compared with only 1 percent for the McCain plan.I also note they make no mention of taxing health care benefits as McCain has proposed.

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]]> By: Kirk Petersen https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-90824 Sat, 01 Nov 2008 22:26:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-90824 I’m piling in late here, but I just blogged about an even more absurd reference to racial code, on a Slate podcast:

“A lot of voters… when you talk about experience with respect to Obama, that’s code for people’s continuing uncomfortableness about his race… a lot of times when people talk about worries about his experience, they’re really touching against their difficulty with the fact that he’s an African-American.”

]]> By: scottie https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-90281 Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:50:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-90281 Well, I wasn’t in a position these past couple of days to pay close attention to this site so I almost missed this last comment – but I gotta respond one last time.

Seanithan,

The quote you gave was from the second presidential debate – by your own admission.

That particular debate took place on Oct. 7, 2008 I believe?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN07477465

The quote I gave was from the democrat primary debates – from around August 1, 2007.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/01/AR2007080101233.html

Again, it’s an iterative argument where initial statements are “massaged” over time to change the initial meaning to something more palatable.

I’m done stirring this particular pot now….

]]> By: wozza https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-90023 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:32:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-90023 ok, living in europe, and being a “european socialist” myself i can categorically state that Obama is not a Socialist.

Socialists believe in state healthcare and education – obama does not, obama believes in health insurance where the government pays for treatment in a mix of facilities and private education as part of a capitalist economy.

Socialists believe in a mixed economy (as opposed to Communists who beleieve in total government/public ownership) where a combination of production/resources/transit/energy are owned and operated by the government on behalf of the public. Obama – as far as i am aware, is not in favour of nationalising the energy industries/natural resources or means of production in the united states.

What Obama is guilty of is favouring a progressive tax system – which even (small c) Conservative parties in the majority of Europe are in support of, although by many standards most of the centre-right parties in Europe (using our spectrum) would be Democrat affiliates using the American spectrum.

But – Obama is not a socialist, end of story – support of progressive taxation is not the sole tenat of socialism.

]]> By: Seanithan https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89994 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:59:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89994 election = debate, sorry.

]]> By: Seanithan https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89992 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:59:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89992 “And if we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden; we will crush Al Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority.”

That is the exact quote from the 2nd Presidential election, taken from CNN.com. There’s an if there, I’m pretty sure.

I realize common sense depends on one viewpoint, thus I’m stating mine. I didn’t presume to speak for the world.

]]> By: br549 https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89965 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 01:57:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89965 There are some commenters here, aside from neo, who should perhaps write a book. I have never been an eloquent writer, ever been able to put my thoughts just right. Many in here are and do. This is a fine blog.

]]> By: scottie https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89950 Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:06:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/22/now-socialist-is-just-a-code-word-for-black-even-if-the-black-person-happens-to-be-a-socialist/#comment-89950 Seanithan,

Obama never qualified his statement with any “IF” – I gave you the exact quote, but instead of admitting you have been misled (or are deliberately attempting to mislead) you continue to qualify your statements (and supposed quotes of Obama) with one baseless new iteration after another.

If there is such a thing as an unbiased voter around here, they would do well to observe your behaviour closely so they can identify and discount such iterative arguments in the future.

Oh, and what passes for “common sense” depends entirely on one’s viewpoint – again, your post being an object lesson. I think I’ll stick with Kissinger on this one….

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