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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-796389</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 01:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[C knows exactly or almost exactly who attacked Joe the P. Just as they know almost exactly what the IRS is doing in 2011. They feign ignorance because it pleases them to step on the ants, what the rest of us call &quot;America&quot; and &quot;Americans&quot;. They like it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C knows exactly or almost exactly who attacked Joe the P. Just as they know almost exactly what the IRS is doing in 2011. They feign ignorance because it pleases them to step on the ants, what the rest of us call &#8220;America&#8221; and &#8220;Americans&#8221;. They like it.</p>
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		By: John G. Spragge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-89508</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John G. Spragge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have no sympathy for people who like the law of the jungle just fine until they find that they don&#039;t always get to be the lion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no sympathy for people who like the law of the jungle just fine until they find that they don&#8217;t always get to be the lion.</p>
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		By: John G. Spragge		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-89507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John G. Spragge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To clarify: to the extent that the press has treated him unfairly, I sympathize with Joe the Plumber. I have absolutely no sympathy for those conservative bloggers and others who boil with outrage over what the &quot;press&quot; has supposedly done to Joe; not unless they denounced what Michelle Malkin did to the Frost family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify: to the extent that the press has treated him unfairly, I sympathize with Joe the Plumber. I have absolutely no sympathy for those conservative bloggers and others who boil with outrage over what the &#8220;press&#8221; has supposedly done to Joe; not unless they denounced what Michelle Malkin did to the Frost family.</p>
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		By: dave		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-89504</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I lost all respect for Mickey Kaus when not long after Palin was announced to be the VP nominee, he took a cheap shot at Trig.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost all respect for Mickey Kaus when not long after Palin was announced to be the VP nominee, he took a cheap shot at Trig.</p>
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		By: Tom Poole		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-89499</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Poole]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are a few &quot;trueisms&quot; that occur to me.
1. Democrats (since 1960) have been liberal.
2. Extreme liberal democrats have taken over the perty.
3. Democrats have always voted cemataries, bums and nuts. Cemataries are free, bums and nuts cost $10.00 and a bottle of ripple.
4. Obama is NOT a Democrat. He is a Socialist hiding behind the liberal curtain/
5. Read his (Ayers) books. It&#039;s all there]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few &#8220;trueisms&#8221; that occur to me.<br />
1. Democrats (since 1960) have been liberal.<br />
2. Extreme liberal democrats have taken over the perty.<br />
3. Democrats have always voted cemataries, bums and nuts. Cemataries are free, bums and nuts cost $10.00 and a bottle of ripple.<br />
4. Obama is NOT a Democrat. He is a Socialist hiding behind the liberal curtain/<br />
5. Read his (Ayers) books. It&#8217;s all there</p>
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		By: Oh, bother		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oh, bother]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, I thought of you as I watched your beloved Sox go down last night. Good on yer for cheering on TB; if your local team is American League then I think you should follow the league all the way to the end, despite the designated hitter rule.  I live near Dallas so my team is the Rangers (oh, the shame!) and I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll live long enough to see them in the Series.

Black Sox Dynasty. I like the sound of that!

Now, about your thread: You don&#039;t usually get this much action from trolls. Maybe they&#039;re restless. This business with Joe the Plumber has gotten a lot of them stirred up. I regard that as evidence of Joe&#039;s impact.

Finally, the press doesn&#039;t have to ask what the Obama campaign wants them to do any more than my dog has to ask whether I want her to accompany me for a walk, and for much the same reason. Perhaps I&#039;ll name my next dog &quot;Press.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, I thought of you as I watched your beloved Sox go down last night. Good on yer for cheering on TB; if your local team is American League then I think you should follow the league all the way to the end, despite the designated hitter rule.  I live near Dallas so my team is the Rangers (oh, the shame!) and I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll live long enough to see them in the Series.</p>
<p>Black Sox Dynasty. I like the sound of that!</p>
<p>Now, about your thread: You don&#8217;t usually get this much action from trolls. Maybe they&#8217;re restless. This business with Joe the Plumber has gotten a lot of them stirred up. I regard that as evidence of Joe&#8217;s impact.</p>
<p>Finally, the press doesn&#8217;t have to ask what the Obama campaign wants them to do any more than my dog has to ask whether I want her to accompany me for a walk, and for much the same reason. Perhaps I&#8217;ll name my next dog &#8220;Press.&#8221;</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Dr. Lumplevin: Take a look at &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/20/obamas-campaign-and-the-press-a-long-history-of-working-hand-in-hand/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post for today&lt;/a&gt;.

From a card-carrying member of the right-wing cabal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dr. Lumplevin: Take a look at <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2008/10/20/obamas-campaign-and-the-press-a-long-history-of-working-hand-in-hand/" rel="nofollow">my post for today</a>.</p>
<p>From a card-carrying member of the right-wing cabal.</p>
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		By: schnargley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-89433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schnargley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An Obama representative said on Fox, &quot;The McCain campaign did not correctly vet Joe Wurzelbacher.&quot; He was right. Neither has the right-wing cabal of the blogosphere.

Well I have flushed out the truth and it stinks to high heaven.

Dr. Lumplevin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Obama representative said on Fox, &#8220;The McCain campaign did not correctly vet Joe Wurzelbacher.&#8221; He was right. Neither has the right-wing cabal of the blogosphere.</p>
<p>Well I have flushed out the truth and it stinks to high heaven.</p>
<p>Dr. Lumplevin</p>
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		By: Chris White		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/18/its-the-free-speech-stupid/#comment-89414</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris White]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poe-tay-toe. Pah-tah-tow. 

Over the past decade a significant number of news reports, commissioned government studies and court cases have found repeated cases of voter suppression, nearly all by Republicans. One critical example was when (two years after the fact) Florida determined that Katherine Harris had &quot;erred&quot; in purging over 57,000 voters (most African-American and thus presumed more likely to vote for Democrats) from the registration lists thus denying tens of thousands the right to vote in the critical 2000 election. While this is but one example, many others can be cited. In nearly every case it has been part of a Republican strategy, carried out by elected officials abusing their positions, to advance the interests of their party by subverting the right of citizens to freely vote. All told hundreds of thousands of voters have been affected by this strategy.

ACORN voter registration efforts have regularly resulted in fraudulent registrations being &lt;i&gt;submitted&lt;/i&gt; although ACORN flags many of these themselves and most are caught before the names enter the registration lists. In the past two years, throughout the entire country, there have been roughly 150 confirmed cases of votes cast due to fraudulent registrations. For Republicans to make this a cause given their record for voter suppression is, at best, myopic and, at worst, hubristic cynicism on grand scale.

If the issue is to allow free and fair elections with as many citizens who wish to vote being given every opportunity to become registered and cast ballots, then one should &lt;b&gt;not only&lt;/b&gt; demand scrupulous review of new registrations (especially those submitted by ACORN) &lt;b&gt;but also&lt;/b&gt; demand that suppression efforts cease &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;because these are the greater and most wide spread voting abuses taking place. &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; 

If, however, the issue were simply to win elections by any means available, fair or foul, I&#039;d say the Republicans have done a far better job in the election fraud department to assure their victories than the Democrats.

And, as a final point, please note that I have &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;never&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; belonged to a political party and believe both major parties to be creatures of the same elite, serving the interests of global big business rather the American people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poe-tay-toe. Pah-tah-tow. </p>
<p>Over the past decade a significant number of news reports, commissioned government studies and court cases have found repeated cases of voter suppression, nearly all by Republicans. One critical example was when (two years after the fact) Florida determined that Katherine Harris had &#8220;erred&#8221; in purging over 57,000 voters (most African-American and thus presumed more likely to vote for Democrats) from the registration lists thus denying tens of thousands the right to vote in the critical 2000 election. While this is but one example, many others can be cited. In nearly every case it has been part of a Republican strategy, carried out by elected officials abusing their positions, to advance the interests of their party by subverting the right of citizens to freely vote. All told hundreds of thousands of voters have been affected by this strategy.</p>
<p>ACORN voter registration efforts have regularly resulted in fraudulent registrations being <i>submitted</i> although ACORN flags many of these themselves and most are caught before the names enter the registration lists. In the past two years, throughout the entire country, there have been roughly 150 confirmed cases of votes cast due to fraudulent registrations. For Republicans to make this a cause given their record for voter suppression is, at best, myopic and, at worst, hubristic cynicism on grand scale.</p>
<p>If the issue is to allow free and fair elections with as many citizens who wish to vote being given every opportunity to become registered and cast ballots, then one should <b>not only</b> demand scrupulous review of new registrations (especially those submitted by ACORN) <b>but also</b> demand that suppression efforts cease <i><b>because these are the greater and most wide spread voting abuses taking place. </b></i> </p>
<p>If, however, the issue were simply to win elections by any means available, fair or foul, I&#8217;d say the Republicans have done a far better job in the election fraud department to assure their victories than the Democrats.</p>
<p>And, as a final point, please note that I have <i><b>never</b></i> belonged to a political party and believe both major parties to be creatures of the same elite, serving the interests of global big business rather the American people.</p>
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		By: mrs whatsit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mrs whatsit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Claiming that ACORN&#039;s fraudulent voter registrations aren&#039;t a problem because most of the fake people won&#039;t actually vote is a lot like claiming that driving drunk isn&#039;t a problem because most drunk drivers manage to get home without killing anybody.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claiming that ACORN&#8217;s fraudulent voter registrations aren&#8217;t a problem because most of the fake people won&#8217;t actually vote is a lot like claiming that driving drunk isn&#8217;t a problem because most drunk drivers manage to get home without killing anybody.</p>
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