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		By: camojack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-89036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[camojack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joe the Plumber is my hero! :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe the Plumber is my hero! 🙂</p>
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		By: Gray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-88996</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No.  He&#039;s the loser.

Some apparatchik called the Ohio regulations commission on him  and they are investigating his plumbing licenses.

He&#039;s also had his address and Social Security Number outed on lefty blogs.

Dirty, dirty leftists.  I remember this strongarming stuff under Clinton!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  He&#8217;s the loser.</p>
<p>Some apparatchik called the Ohio regulations commission on him  and they are investigating his plumbing licenses.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s also had his address and Social Security Number outed on lefty blogs.</p>
<p>Dirty, dirty leftists.  I remember this strongarming stuff under Clinton!</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-88955</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A liberal can&#039;t comprehend that giving a person unearned money is actually handicapping the supplier and reciever of that money. It is a genuine lose lose situation.

 The giver harbors resentment, and the reciever has no incentive to leave the freebie comfort zone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A liberal can&#8217;t comprehend that giving a person unearned money is actually handicapping the supplier and reciever of that money. It is a genuine lose lose situation.</p>
<p> The giver harbors resentment, and the reciever has no incentive to leave the freebie comfort zone.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-88954</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By the way Neo, great article. Your last paragraph hit the nail on the head. 

Chance of success or actual success ?

Leftists do not get the point because they in their mind have discounted letting businesses or people keep more of their income as..... &quot;trickle down&quot; economics.

They simply cannot grasp that it is true that business and economic output is negatively impacted by higher taxes. If economic activity is negatively impacted that is less j-o-b-s than before. Period.

It might still be an &#039;increase&#039; in jobs if there was a surge in the economy. just less of an &#039;increase&#039;.

But during a recession - it would lead to a deeper recession and maybe even depression. Economics 101 should be taught far and wide. It is the only way we can grab a hold back of a individualist vs. statist government mentality.

It is better to teach a man to fish than give him fish. Giving fish leads to depenedancy. It is counter productive to the long term goals that ALL of us should have of having a stronger and more prosperous nation.

The more prosperous we are the more we can focus on other goals such as helping other nations or being a leading edge technology innovator towards environment issues....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way Neo, great article. Your last paragraph hit the nail on the head. </p>
<p>Chance of success or actual success ?</p>
<p>Leftists do not get the point because they in their mind have discounted letting businesses or people keep more of their income as&#8230;.. &#8220;trickle down&#8221; economics.</p>
<p>They simply cannot grasp that it is true that business and economic output is negatively impacted by higher taxes. If economic activity is negatively impacted that is less j-o-b-s than before. Period.</p>
<p>It might still be an &#8216;increase&#8217; in jobs if there was a surge in the economy. just less of an &#8216;increase&#8217;.</p>
<p>But during a recession &#8211; it would lead to a deeper recession and maybe even depression. Economics 101 should be taught far and wide. It is the only way we can grab a hold back of a individualist vs. statist government mentality.</p>
<p>It is better to teach a man to fish than give him fish. Giving fish leads to depenedancy. It is counter productive to the long term goals that ALL of us should have of having a stronger and more prosperous nation.</p>
<p>The more prosperous we are the more we can focus on other goals such as helping other nations or being a leading edge technology innovator towards environment issues&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-88948</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Secret? :) 

Unabashedly out-of-the-closet socialist.

Obama and McCain have markedly different plans with regards to taxes and spending. While Obama with a 4 to 1 money advantage has MISDEFINED McCain in EVERY commercial (isn&#039;t that negative advertising), the plans are clearly defined on their websites.

Obama&#039;s plan increases taxes on capital gains, corporations, and upper income folks which would 100% have a negative effect on the economy. Is that what America needs? The Great Depression 2.0? Hoover and FDR inacted the wrong prescriptions for America in the 30&#039;s and we didn&#039;t come out of the depression until WW2 in the 40&#039;s.

McCain&#039;s plan is the RIGHT prescription for what ails America. His plans call for cuts in capital gains taxes, corporate taxes and continuing with the tax cuts enacted after 9/11.

This is such a simple choice if people understand economics 101. 

Taking away &quot;personality&quot; and the &quot;associations&quot; and the &quot;Messiah&quot; qualities or not - on the ISSUES, Obama is WRONG and John McCain is right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secret? 🙂 </p>
<p>Unabashedly out-of-the-closet socialist.</p>
<p>Obama and McCain have markedly different plans with regards to taxes and spending. While Obama with a 4 to 1 money advantage has MISDEFINED McCain in EVERY commercial (isn&#8217;t that negative advertising), the plans are clearly defined on their websites.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s plan increases taxes on capital gains, corporations, and upper income folks which would 100% have a negative effect on the economy. Is that what America needs? The Great Depression 2.0? Hoover and FDR inacted the wrong prescriptions for America in the 30&#8217;s and we didn&#8217;t come out of the depression until WW2 in the 40&#8217;s.</p>
<p>McCain&#8217;s plan is the RIGHT prescription for what ails America. His plans call for cuts in capital gains taxes, corporate taxes and continuing with the tax cuts enacted after 9/11.</p>
<p>This is such a simple choice if people understand economics 101. </p>
<p>Taking away &#8220;personality&#8221; and the &#8220;associations&#8221; and the &#8220;Messiah&#8221; qualities or not &#8211; on the ISSUES, Obama is WRONG and John McCain is right.</p>
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		By: The Right to Free Plumbing		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-88945</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Right to Free Plumbing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I explain over at pjmedia why Joe should be ashamed, since the right to free plumbing is one of the basic human rights.  

You are obviously a lifelong right winger, and have never learned the truth or experienced higher education.  You should read Marx and Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I explain over at pjmedia why Joe should be ashamed, since the right to free plumbing is one of the basic human rights.  </p>
<p>You are obviously a lifelong right winger, and have never learned the truth or experienced higher education.  You should read Marx and Obama.</p>
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		By: armchair pessimist		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/16/and-the-winner-is-joe-the-plumber/#comment-88944</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[armchair pessimist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Joe,

In another time and place people like you were called kulaks.  Things did not go well for them.

Good luck and don&#039;t forget your long underwear when they come for you,

AP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Joe,</p>
<p>In another time and place people like you were called kulaks.  Things did not go well for them.</p>
<p>Good luck and don&#8217;t forget your long underwear when they come for you,</p>
<p>AP</p>
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