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		By: FredHjr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88298</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FredHjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar,

Well, if we have discovered the maddening pattern of that Leftie troll, then all we need do is to patiently wait for a thread to get old and then resume the discussion.

Poor VDH lives in the state that is the epicenter of the liberal-Left.  And right now it is the hardest hit state - the slide there started back in &#039;05.  The housing bubble burst there first, and has been having a painful ripple effect throughout California&#039;s economy and the nation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar,</p>
<p>Well, if we have discovered the maddening pattern of that Leftie troll, then all we need do is to patiently wait for a thread to get old and then resume the discussion.</p>
<p>Poor VDH lives in the state that is the epicenter of the liberal-Left.  And right now it is the hardest hit state &#8211; the slide there started back in &#8217;05.  The housing bubble burst there first, and has been having a painful ripple effect throughout California&#8217;s economy and the nation.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88294</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sashal is using the tried and true technique, trade marked right here (TM) at Neo-Neocon, of starting a troll fest on every new thread of Neo&#039;s while abandoning old threads like this one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sashal is using the tried and true technique, trade marked right here (TM) at Neo-Neocon, of starting a troll fest on every new thread of Neo&#8217;s while abandoning old threads like this one.</p>
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		By: Rose		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88276</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Sergey Says:  Most conservatives distaste ideology of any kind, preferring common sense and tradition. And most neo-conservatives also never belonged to hard left, they prefer to call themselves classical liberals.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks for putting in words something I have tried to tell people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sergey Says:  Most conservatives distaste ideology of any kind, preferring common sense and tradition. And most neo-conservatives also never belonged to hard left, they prefer to call themselves classical liberals.</i></p>
<p>Thanks for putting in words something I have tried to tell people.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88275</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;FredHjr Says: &lt;/b&gt;

Sashal is also saying that neo-cons are the Bolshevists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>FredHjr Says: </b></p>
<p>Sashal is also saying that neo-cons are the Bolshevists.</p>
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		By: FredHjr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FredHjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neoneocon,

I participate in weblog discussions over at Richard Fernandez&#039; blog (as far back as when it was called the Belmont Club), others on PJM, JihadWatch.com, and another one whose name I will not mention, and without exception sometimes it is hard to have a good discussion about a topic because the Obamabots are obstreperously shoveling sh*t at us and creating needless noise.  I have never participated in a weblog over at the more well-known Leftist sites, but I know some people who have and they, being rational and attempting to be thorough and faithful to the facts, get shouted down, their posts removed, and their participation blocked at those sites.  That is why I just read and will not participate.  Plus, I would never attempt to embarrass  myself over there in the manner that these creeps do in our realms.  These people are just insane.  There is a very strong stalinist instinct over on the Left.  If they don&#039;t agree with you, instead of trying to use reason they use ad hominen, tu quoque, or worse.

People like &quot;sashal&quot; are a dime for TWO dozen over on the Left.

Their current way of coping with the revealed extent of Obama&#039;s alliance with Ayers and Dohrn:  &quot;Lies!  Lies!  All lies, capitalist pig dogs!&quot;  &quot;Propaganda!&quot;  &quot;Right wing smear machine!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neoneocon,</p>
<p>I participate in weblog discussions over at Richard Fernandez&#8217; blog (as far back as when it was called the Belmont Club), others on PJM, JihadWatch.com, and another one whose name I will not mention, and without exception sometimes it is hard to have a good discussion about a topic because the Obamabots are obstreperously shoveling sh*t at us and creating needless noise.  I have never participated in a weblog over at the more well-known Leftist sites, but I know some people who have and they, being rational and attempting to be thorough and faithful to the facts, get shouted down, their posts removed, and their participation blocked at those sites.  That is why I just read and will not participate.  Plus, I would never attempt to embarrass  myself over there in the manner that these creeps do in our realms.  These people are just insane.  There is a very strong stalinist instinct over on the Left.  If they don&#8217;t agree with you, instead of trying to use reason they use ad hominen, tu quoque, or worse.</p>
<p>People like &#8220;sashal&#8221; are a dime for TWO dozen over on the Left.</p>
<p>Their current way of coping with the revealed extent of Obama&#8217;s alliance with Ayers and Dohrn:  &#8220;Lies!  Lies!  All lies, capitalist pig dogs!&#8221;  &#8220;Propaganda!&#8221;  &#8220;Right wing smear machine!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88248</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I don’t know what it is with some people.
Maybe some sort of need to demonize your opponents in order to get comfortable with what you say about them and still be able to sleep at night, along with easily aroused fear bubbling just below the surface of “oh noes! the communists/socialists/muslims/â€‹dirty fncking hippies are coming!”, childhood insecurities lasting into adulthood, feeling threatened by anyone who you perceive to be smarter than you, living in an echo chamber, and chirping “SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!” on a regular basis.&lt;/b&gt;-Full quote

Neo-Cons! Neo-Cons! Hehe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I don’t know what it is with some people.<br />
Maybe some sort of need to demonize your opponents in order to get comfortable with what you say about them and still be able to sleep at night, along with easily aroused fear bubbling just below the surface of “oh noes! the communists/socialists/muslims/â€‹dirty fncking hippies are coming!”, childhood insecurities lasting into adulthood, feeling threatened by anyone who you perceive to be smarter than you, living in an echo chamber, and chirping “SOCIALIZED MEDICINE! SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!” on a regular basis.</b>-Full quote</p>
<p>Neo-Cons! Neo-Cons! Hehe</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88246</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;the communists/socialists/muslims/â€‹dirty fncking hippies are coming!”&lt;/b&gt;-Sashal

Compare that with what Sashal said later about neo-cons.

&lt;b&gt;how neoconservative plague on the GOP&lt;/b&gt;

Hypocrisy, anyone?

Again, whenever the Leftists accuse their political enemies of being, it was only ever true of the Leftists themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>the communists/socialists/muslims/â€‹dirty fncking hippies are coming!”</b>-Sashal</p>
<p>Compare that with what Sashal said later about neo-cons.</p>
<p><b>how neoconservative plague on the GOP</b></p>
<p>Hypocrisy, anyone?</p>
<p>Again, whenever the Leftists accuse their political enemies of being, it was only ever true of the Leftists themselves.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88244</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;physicsguy Says:
October 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

“yes, neo, some education , besides one-sided opinion pieces from NRO might help, to know how neoconservative plague on the GOP is treated by the true right-wings and true conservatism”&lt;/b&gt;

Look up David Brin&#039;s blog and you&#039;ll see an example of what Sasha means by &quot;true conservatism&quot;. True conservatism means reactionary, knee jerk, closed minded, and parochial hicks clothing themselves in ideological primatal.

NRO is one sided which means NRO is not &quot;true conservatism&quot;. Neo-conservatives are seen as a plague because Leftist Stalinists really hated Trotsky and they dislike the neo-cons because they believe neo-cons were inspired by Trotsky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>physicsguy Says:<br />
October 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pm</p>
<p>“yes, neo, some education , besides one-sided opinion pieces from NRO might help, to know how neoconservative plague on the GOP is treated by the true right-wings and true conservatism”</b></p>
<p>Look up David Brin&#8217;s blog and you&#8217;ll see an example of what Sasha means by &#8220;true conservatism&#8221;. True conservatism means reactionary, knee jerk, closed minded, and parochial hicks clothing themselves in ideological primatal.</p>
<p>NRO is one sided which means NRO is not &#8220;true conservatism&#8221;. Neo-conservatives are seen as a plague because Leftist Stalinists really hated Trotsky and they dislike the neo-cons because they believe neo-cons were inspired by Trotsky.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/10/08/fernandez-to-candidates-be-careful-what-you-wish-for/#comment-88241</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Because, if sergey defended Russian actions against Georgian aggression towards minorities in south Ossetia, then I am with him.,

Which is another reason why sergey&#039;s position on that score was and still is wrong.

The fact that parochial Leftists in America have gotten their orders on this issue from higher command should tell everyone who knows the history of Russia what was really going on.

&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;The party which gladly incorporated the ideological sons and daughters of Bolshevism-neocons ..&lt;/b&gt;

By your standards, every classical liberal from the Founding Fathers down would be a &quot;bolshevist-neocon&quot;. Course, your standards are not only biased but they are deranged, so it would be expected to be that way.

&lt;b&gt;Neoconservatism is the offspring of Marxism and totalitarianism incorporated in modern GOP now.&lt;/b&gt;

You hear that Neo? Be sure not to report my traitorous actions to the Marxist and totalitarian corporations that pay my bills. You would do me a great favor by omitting such things from your weekly agent reports to our common employers.

&lt;b&gt;Classi liberal -me&lt;/b&gt;

You are about as much a classical liberal as Stalin and Pol Pot were.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Because, if sergey defended Russian actions against Georgian aggression towards minorities in south Ossetia, then I am with him.,</p>
<p>Which is another reason why sergey&#8217;s position on that score was and still is wrong.</p>
<p>The fact that parochial Leftists in America have gotten their orders on this issue from higher command should tell everyone who knows the history of Russia what was really going on.</p>
<p></b><b>The party which gladly incorporated the ideological sons and daughters of Bolshevism-neocons ..</b></p>
<p>By your standards, every classical liberal from the Founding Fathers down would be a &#8220;bolshevist-neocon&#8221;. Course, your standards are not only biased but they are deranged, so it would be expected to be that way.</p>
<p><b>Neoconservatism is the offspring of Marxism and totalitarianism incorporated in modern GOP now.</b></p>
<p>You hear that Neo? Be sure not to report my traitorous actions to the Marxist and totalitarian corporations that pay my bills. You would do me a great favor by omitting such things from your weekly agent reports to our common employers.</p>
<p><b>Classi liberal -me</b></p>
<p>You are about as much a classical liberal as Stalin and Pol Pot were.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sergey,

I beg to differ. Hanson is not an ideologue. He may have reached certain conclusions that agree with a particular school of thought, but he bases his opinion on his life experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergey,</p>
<p>I beg to differ. Hanson is not an ideologue. He may have reached certain conclusions that agree with a particular school of thought, but he bases his opinion on his life experience.</p>
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