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		By: Kurt Maddox		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kurt Maddox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 03:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Raines is NOT an Obama &quot;advisor&quot; and Obama has NEVER sought out Raines for a single pieced of economic advice, which is verified by all parties and anyone with any knowledge of both men.  Not that you&#039;re interested in correcting what you likely already knew to be a lie before you wrote it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raines is NOT an Obama &#8220;advisor&#8221; and Obama has NEVER sought out Raines for a single pieced of economic advice, which is verified by all parties and anyone with any knowledge of both men.  Not that you&#8217;re interested in correcting what you likely already knew to be a lie before you wrote it.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: just wondering...

Neo,

He has: http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/18/john-mccain-hits-obama-where-it-hurts-his-connections-to-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac.php#comments]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: just wondering&#8230;</p>
<p>Neo,</p>
<p>He has: <a href="http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/18/john-mccain-hits-obama-where-it-hurts-his-connections-to-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac.php#comments" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/18/john-mccain-hits-obama-where-it-hurts-his-connections-to-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac.php#comments</a></p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85811</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rove was talking last night about the Bush administration back in 05 warning about the likelihood of a Fannie and Freddie fiasco and putting forward legislation to increase regulation of them.

Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked the regulatory legislation, insisting that Fannie and Freddie were fine.

This is all about the dems creating this mess and then hypocritically lying to try and make it about republican &#039;incompetence and greed&#039;.

Evidently adding &#039;bearing false witness&#039; to their list of sins is not a concern. But then, they don&#039;t believe in a &#039;literal translation&#039; of the Ten Commandments.

Obama is the second highest recipient of largess from Fannie/Freddie. Chris Dodd got the most...

Time for ANOTHER ad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove was talking last night about the Bush administration back in 05 warning about the likelihood of a Fannie and Freddie fiasco and putting forward legislation to increase regulation of them.</p>
<p>Barney Frank and Chris Dodd blocked the regulatory legislation, insisting that Fannie and Freddie were fine.</p>
<p>This is all about the dems creating this mess and then hypocritically lying to try and make it about republican &#8216;incompetence and greed&#8217;.</p>
<p>Evidently adding &#8216;bearing false witness&#8217; to their list of sins is not a concern. But then, they don&#8217;t believe in a &#8216;literal translation&#8217; of the Ten Commandments.</p>
<p>Obama is the second highest recipient of largess from Fannie/Freddie. Chris Dodd got the most&#8230;</p>
<p>Time for ANOTHER ad.</p>
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		By: Vince P		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85806</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to conclude either 

1 - McCain is strategically waiting to unload on Obama&#039;s ties to Fannie

or

2 - The campaign is abysmally incompetent.  

Given their track record this campaign so far , I want to lean toward 1. 


And now look at what our wonderful Congress is doing:

Democratic Congress May Adjourn, Leave Crisis to Fed, Treasury 

By Kristin Jensen

 Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) -- The Democratic-controlled Congress, acknowledging that it isn&#039;t equipped to lead the way to a solution for the financial crisis and can&#039;t agree on a path to follow, is likely to just get out of the way. 

Lawmakers say they are unlikely to take action before, or to delay, their planned adjournments -- Sept. 26 for the House of Representatives, a week later for the Senate. While they haven&#039;t ruled out returning after the Nov. 4 elections, they would rather wait until next year unless Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who are leading efforts to contain the crisis, call for help. 

One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that ``no one knows what to do&#039;&#039; at the moment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to conclude either </p>
<p>1 &#8211; McCain is strategically waiting to unload on Obama&#8217;s ties to Fannie</p>
<p>or</p>
<p>2 &#8211; The campaign is abysmally incompetent.  </p>
<p>Given their track record this campaign so far , I want to lean toward 1. </p>
<p>And now look at what our wonderful Congress is doing:</p>
<p>Democratic Congress May Adjourn, Leave Crisis to Fed, Treasury </p>
<p>By Kristin Jensen</p>
<p> Sept. 18 (Bloomberg) &#8212; The Democratic-controlled Congress, acknowledging that it isn&#8217;t equipped to lead the way to a solution for the financial crisis and can&#8217;t agree on a path to follow, is likely to just get out of the way. </p>
<p>Lawmakers say they are unlikely to take action before, or to delay, their planned adjournments &#8212; Sept. 26 for the House of Representatives, a week later for the Senate. While they haven&#8217;t ruled out returning after the Nov. 4 elections, they would rather wait until next year unless Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who are leading efforts to contain the crisis, call for help. </p>
<p>One reason, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday, is that &#8220;no one knows what to do&#8221; at the moment.</p>
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		By: njcommuter		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85805</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope so.  You need a certain amount of lead time for something like this to change opinions before an election.  Let&#039;s hope they are timing it right.  A series of ads, each one highlighting one &quot;bullet point&quot;. each one with a different kind of dirt on the money, each one naming one to three people, with their campaign roles, would probably be the most effective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope so.  You need a certain amount of lead time for something like this to change opinions before an election.  Let&#8217;s hope they are timing it right.  A series of ads, each one highlighting one &#8220;bullet point&#8221;. each one with a different kind of dirt on the money, each one naming one to three people, with their campaign roles, would probably be the most effective.</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85784</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, don&#039;t worry, the ads will come.  They&#039;re just letting Obama get out in front, riffing about corruption and malfeasance, and Washington...
And then they&#039;ll come out and drop this stuff on his head.  It&#039;ll be all the more effective for his looking like such a hypocrite on top of being connected to the problem in the first place.

The McCain/Palin campaign is way inside the Obama camps OODA loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, don&#8217;t worry, the ads will come.  They&#8217;re just letting Obama get out in front, riffing about corruption and malfeasance, and Washington&#8230;<br />
And then they&#8217;ll come out and drop this stuff on his head.  It&#8217;ll be all the more effective for his looking like such a hypocrite on top of being connected to the problem in the first place.</p>
<p>The McCain/Palin campaign is way inside the Obama camps OODA loop.</p>
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		By: Doom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85783</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is interesting, as humble as McCain was about his economics acumen, a simple look at his experience will allow one to realize he actually has a fairly good grip on the topic.  As much as I do not like much of his politics or economic leadership, if I am correct, he cannot claim to be foolish based on ignorance.  Still, it is better than Obama, and more, his advisers on the topic. 

I have such difficulties with this election.  Do I despise the one who should know better yet seemingly ignores his education and experience?  Do I hold McCain as worse because he should know better?  Or do I just not vote, risking a worse, if through ignorance, one who will do far more damage?  Then again, whether he is actually ignorant, or whether Obama knows exactly what damages he would create, is another matter.

Life does not offer simple questions, easy answers, or certainty, ever.  A mistake here, at this time in history, is like few times in history.  We will either stumble on, as a free state, in the hopes of another opportunity in the future.  Or, we will begin folding up a dream, joining the rest of the world in it&#039;s dark walk, and live as tools of a state, then a world state.  I cannot be sure this is The election, I just know it might be.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting, as humble as McCain was about his economics acumen, a simple look at his experience will allow one to realize he actually has a fairly good grip on the topic.  As much as I do not like much of his politics or economic leadership, if I am correct, he cannot claim to be foolish based on ignorance.  Still, it is better than Obama, and more, his advisers on the topic. </p>
<p>I have such difficulties with this election.  Do I despise the one who should know better yet seemingly ignores his education and experience?  Do I hold McCain as worse because he should know better?  Or do I just not vote, risking a worse, if through ignorance, one who will do far more damage?  Then again, whether he is actually ignorant, or whether Obama knows exactly what damages he would create, is another matter.</p>
<p>Life does not offer simple questions, easy answers, or certainty, ever.  A mistake here, at this time in history, is like few times in history.  We will either stumble on, as a free state, in the hopes of another opportunity in the future.  Or, we will begin folding up a dream, joining the rest of the world in it&#8217;s dark walk, and live as tools of a state, then a world state.  I cannot be sure this is The election, I just know it might be.</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85779</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 06:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post Neo, what fun! But lest we take our selves too seriously here, we must not forget that the Obamessiah is going to lead us out of war (even if it&#039;s only after it&#039;s already mostly over anyway), and that&#039;s what most counts! But, oh, now I&#039;m starting to feel like Mr. Bill, oh, noooo!

http://www.slate.com/id/2200134/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Neo, what fun! But lest we take our selves too seriously here, we must not forget that the Obamessiah is going to lead us out of war (even if it&#8217;s only after it&#8217;s already mostly over anyway), and that&#8217;s what most counts! But, oh, now I&#8217;m starting to feel like Mr. Bill, oh, noooo!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2200134/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.slate.com/id/2200134/</a></p>
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		By: Gail		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85771</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gail]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wonderfully condescending quote #1, from Obambi:
 
&quot;The one thing that I want to insist on is that, as I travel around the country, the American people are a decent people. Now they get &lt;i&gt;confused&lt;/i&gt; sometimes. You know, they listen to the wrong talk radio shows or watch the wrong TV networks, um, but they’re, they’re basically decent, they’re basically sound.&quot;
 
Thank you SO much, Your Wonderfulness.
 
Now, wonderfully condescending quote #2, from Hairplugs Biden:
 
&quot;All this stuff about how different Barack Obama is, they’re just not used to somebody &lt;i&gt;really smart.&lt;/i&gt; They’re just not used to somebody who’s &lt;i&gt;really well educated.&lt;/i&gt; They just don’t know quite how to handle it. Cause if he’s as smart as Barack is, he must not be from my neighborhood.&quot;
 
Now, isn&#039;t that &lt;i&gt;special.&lt;/i&gt; 
 
Pass it on....

[Source: http://rachellucas.com/index.php/2008/09/17/youre-decent-but-just-confused-and-stupid/ ]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderfully condescending quote #1, from Obambi:</p>
<p>&#8220;The one thing that I want to insist on is that, as I travel around the country, the American people are a decent people. Now they get <i>confused</i> sometimes. You know, they listen to the wrong talk radio shows or watch the wrong TV networks, um, but they’re, they’re basically decent, they’re basically sound.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you SO much, Your Wonderfulness.</p>
<p>Now, wonderfully condescending quote #2, from Hairplugs Biden:</p>
<p>&#8220;All this stuff about how different Barack Obama is, they’re just not used to somebody <i>really smart.</i> They’re just not used to somebody who’s <i>really well educated.</i> They just don’t know quite how to handle it. Cause if he’s as smart as Barack is, he must not be from my neighborhood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, isn&#8217;t that <i>special.</i> </p>
<p>Pass it on&#8230;.</p>
<p>[Source: <a href="http://rachellucas.com/index.php/2008/09/17/youre-decent-but-just-confused-and-stupid/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://rachellucas.com/index.php/2008/09/17/youre-decent-but-just-confused-and-stupid/</a> ]</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/17/just-wondering-2/#comment-85770</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[Off-topic]
Ymarsakar -- Thanks for giving it a shot at &lt;a href=&quot;http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2008/09/under-appreciated-issues-that-nobody.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Contrary Brin&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Off-topic]<br />
Ymarsakar &#8212; Thanks for giving it a shot at <a href="http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2008/09/under-appreciated-issues-that-nobody.html" rel="nofollow">Contrary Brin</a>.</p>
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