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		By: Thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84881</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perfected democrat Says: 

&quot;We need to hear from no less than the Judicial Department whether the issue of B.O.’s birth certificate has been credibly and legally settled.&quot;

He let the factcheck.org people look at it (the origional). They think its real. This one is not panning out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfected democrat Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;We need to hear from no less than the Judicial Department whether the issue of B.O.’s birth certificate has been credibly and legally settled.&#8221;</p>
<p>He let the factcheck.org people look at it (the origional). They think its real. This one is not panning out.</p>
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		By: Thomass		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84880</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomass]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(O)CT(O)PUS Says: 

&quot;Palin’s views on abortion are so radical that the majority of women would reject them if they thought through the consequences:&quot;

Got a link? So far this seems to be from the dem mythmaking handbook. Someone against abortion is always accused of being against it &#039;for rape and incest&#039; even though they&#039;ve never actually said that. 

As to real abortion extremists, well, look no further than Obama who voted against the born alive act before becoming a senator.

Either way, executives don’t create this type of law. I think the republican position is the courts shouldn’t either, the legislature should… and she is not running for congress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(O)CT(O)PUS Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;Palin’s views on abortion are so radical that the majority of women would reject them if they thought through the consequences:&#8221;</p>
<p>Got a link? So far this seems to be from the dem mythmaking handbook. Someone against abortion is always accused of being against it &#8216;for rape and incest&#8217; even though they&#8217;ve never actually said that. </p>
<p>As to real abortion extremists, well, look no further than Obama who voted against the born alive act before becoming a senator.</p>
<p>Either way, executives don’t create this type of law. I think the republican position is the courts shouldn’t either, the legislature should… and she is not running for congress.</p>
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		By: OriginalFrank		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OriginalFrank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Occam&#039;s Beard Says: 

The world’s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for

The arrogance is astounding. Where to start? The “world’s verdict?” Who the hell are they to be judging anyone? And what would they do about it, if they were to judge?

************

They might refuse to extradite criminals to the US for trial if their crimes deserved death. Oh, wait, they already do that.

They might refuse us overflight rights to attack threats to world peace.  Oh, wait, they already to that too.

They might demand many years to try and fail to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons through diplomatic means.  Oh.

They might harbor terrorist cells for years that end up attacking and destroying major US buildings.  Hmmm...

They might try to force the US to agree to anti-global warming measures that they themselves sign and flagrantly flout.  Well...

They might persecute those attempting to speak openly about the threats to European civilization emanating from the uncontrolled mass migration of Muslims into Europe.

Well, come to think of it, not much more they could do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam&#8217;s Beard Says: </p>
<p>The world’s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for</p>
<p>The arrogance is astounding. Where to start? The “world’s verdict?” Who the hell are they to be judging anyone? And what would they do about it, if they were to judge?</p>
<p>************</p>
<p>They might refuse to extradite criminals to the US for trial if their crimes deserved death. Oh, wait, they already do that.</p>
<p>They might refuse us overflight rights to attack threats to world peace.  Oh, wait, they already to that too.</p>
<p>They might demand many years to try and fail to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons through diplomatic means.  Oh.</p>
<p>They might harbor terrorist cells for years that end up attacking and destroying major US buildings.  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>They might try to force the US to agree to anti-global warming measures that they themselves sign and flagrantly flout.  Well&#8230;</p>
<p>They might persecute those attempting to speak openly about the threats to European civilization emanating from the uncontrolled mass migration of Muslims into Europe.</p>
<p>Well, come to think of it, not much more they could do.</p>
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		By: Occam's Beard		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Occam's Beard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The world’s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The arrogance is astounding. Where to start? The &quot;world&#039;s verdict?&quot; Who the hell are they to be judging anyone? And what would they do about it, if they were to judge?

But never mind that. When &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; country in Europe elects a black man as its leader pigs will be flying with or without lipstick on them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The world’s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for</p></blockquote>
<p>The arrogance is astounding. Where to start? The &#8220;world&#8217;s verdict?&#8221; Who the hell are they to be judging anyone? And what would they do about it, if they were to judge?</p>
<p>But never mind that. When <i>any</i> country in Europe elects a black man as its leader pigs will be flying with or without lipstick on them.</p>
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		By: harry McHitlerburtonstein the Conservative Extremist		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harry McHitlerburtonstein the Conservative Extremist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, people; get a load of this:

We are being thrown the race card from overseas! From a white European no less!

Imagine the nerve!!

&lt;b&gt;The world&#039;s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for&lt;/b&gt;

(UK Guardian article found on Real Clear Politics.com)

Oooh, ooh...get this: &lt;i&gt;&quot;An America that disdains Obama for his global support risks turning current anti-Bush feeling into something far worse&lt;/i&gt;

I wrote an e-mail to this smuck reminding him we had already had that parting long distance-dictating revolution and as far as European threats are concerned, he&#039;s better off crawling back under the desk he&#039;d been cowering under and working on new ways to appease his growing foreign born invasion.

Man, and I thought adding Palin to the ticket made voting McCain a better option. I must confess, nothing tops this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, people; get a load of this:</p>
<p>We are being thrown the race card from overseas! From a white European no less!</p>
<p>Imagine the nerve!!</p>
<p><b>The world&#8217;s verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for</b></p>
<p>(UK Guardian article found on Real Clear Politics.com)</p>
<p>Oooh, ooh&#8230;get this: <i>&#8220;An America that disdains Obama for his global support risks turning current anti-Bush feeling into something far worse</i></p>
<p>I wrote an e-mail to this smuck reminding him we had already had that parting long distance-dictating revolution and as far as European threats are concerned, he&#8217;s better off crawling back under the desk he&#8217;d been cowering under and working on new ways to appease his growing foreign born invasion.</p>
<p>Man, and I thought adding Palin to the ticket made voting McCain a better option. I must confess, nothing tops this.</p>
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		By: SteveH		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SteveH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liberals tried so hard to prevent a conservative resurgence, they practically guaranteed it. They work on the notion that the media tail can wag the dog called the folk.

 That only works until the dog gets tired of being slung around by a tail they can live without.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals tried so hard to prevent a conservative resurgence, they practically guaranteed it. They work on the notion that the media tail can wag the dog called the folk.</p>
<p> That only works until the dog gets tired of being slung around by a tail they can live without.</p>
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		By: nyomythus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84848</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nyomythus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;...Palin has made the biggest step forward in feminism since Madonna channeled the dominatrix persona of high-glam Marlene Dietrich and rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats of the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment.&lt;/b&gt;

More&#062;&#062; http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/index.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>&#8230;Palin has made the biggest step forward in feminism since Madonna channeled the dominatrix persona of high-glam Marlene Dietrich and rammed pro-sex, pro-beauty feminism down the throats of the prissy, victim-mongering, philistine feminist establishment.</b></p>
<p>More&gt;&gt; <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/09/10/palin/index.html</a></p>
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		By: strcpy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[strcpy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;We need to hear from no less than the Judicial Department whether the issue of B.O.’s birth certificate has been credibly and legally settled.&quot;

Why? He is clearly old enough and you only have to be the child of a citizen to have US citizenship. It doesn&#039;t matter if she had him in North Korea and the father was a communist hardliner in the USSR he would *still* be a US citizen. Not only that but as of 2000 any foreign national under the age of 18 that is adopted by a US citizen automatically becomes one too.

The relevant law - US code Title 8, Section 1401 (defines natural born citizens): &quot;Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)&quot;

The left is also making the same case for McCain as he was born overseas while his parents were serving in the military. From the same US code above:&quot;Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.&quot;

So, no reason for the justice department to get involved for any reason - it would be a waste of money. Even if his birth certificate is fake it doesn&#039;t impact him in any way (unless he is the one who falsified it). People *really* wishing this to work (on both sides) have all sorts of reasons why they are not natural born, however the law is absolutely 100% clear and it has also historically been that way since the time of the founding fathers. The only way you can work it otherwise is by ignoring simple and clear writing in our basic laws.

However, for many this will be settled about the same time it is proven that Bush didn&#039;t use demolitions to bring the World Trade Centers down or prove that the Pentagon was actually hit by a plane instead of a missile faked to look like one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We need to hear from no less than the Judicial Department whether the issue of B.O.’s birth certificate has been credibly and legally settled.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why? He is clearly old enough and you only have to be the child of a citizen to have US citizenship. It doesn&#8217;t matter if she had him in North Korea and the father was a communist hardliner in the USSR he would *still* be a US citizen. Not only that but as of 2000 any foreign national under the age of 18 that is adopted by a US citizen automatically becomes one too.</p>
<p>The relevant law &#8211; US code Title 8, Section 1401 (defines natural born citizens): &#8220;Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)&#8221;</p>
<p>The left is also making the same case for McCain as he was born overseas while his parents were serving in the military. From the same US code above:&#8221;Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, no reason for the justice department to get involved for any reason &#8211; it would be a waste of money. Even if his birth certificate is fake it doesn&#8217;t impact him in any way (unless he is the one who falsified it). People *really* wishing this to work (on both sides) have all sorts of reasons why they are not natural born, however the law is absolutely 100% clear and it has also historically been that way since the time of the founding fathers. The only way you can work it otherwise is by ignoring simple and clear writing in our basic laws.</p>
<p>However, for many this will be settled about the same time it is proven that Bush didn&#8217;t use demolitions to bring the World Trade Centers down or prove that the Pentagon was actually hit by a plane instead of a missile faked to look like one.</p>
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		By: Rose		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/09/09/a-thought-on-timing-in-elections/#comment-84836</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The timing I am worried about is how long she can keep using the same phrases/schtick. She has to be a moving target, move on from the Bridge to Nowhere and press hard on earmarks, and vetoes, including line item vetoes. When they try to hit her, don&#039;t respond but come back with something out of another field entirely, keep them off balance, and keep making points. I think she can do it, but it is going to be an exhausting couple of weeks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timing I am worried about is how long she can keep using the same phrases/schtick. She has to be a moving target, move on from the Bridge to Nowhere and press hard on earmarks, and vetoes, including line item vetoes. When they try to hit her, don&#8217;t respond but come back with something out of another field entirely, keep them off balance, and keep making points. I think she can do it, but it is going to be an exhausting couple of weeks.</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This election could well end up being similar to one notoriously previous (remember?), except in this case the popular vote may end up being conclusively in favor of McCain, but B.O. wins in the Electoral College, and it will count, no whining allowed...

We need to hear from no less than the Judicial Department whether the issue of B.O.&#039;s birth certificate has been credibly and legally settled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This election could well end up being similar to one notoriously previous (remember?), except in this case the popular vote may end up being conclusively in favor of McCain, but B.O. wins in the Electoral College, and it will count, no whining allowed&#8230;</p>
<p>We need to hear from no less than the Judicial Department whether the issue of B.O.&#8217;s birth certificate has been credibly and legally settled.</p>
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