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		By: Salah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Given that this is your personal bias, it has nothing to do with the truth.&lt;/i&gt;


Can you telling us your your personal bias truth please?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Given that this is your personal bias, it has nothing to do with the truth.</i></p>
<p>Can you telling us your your personal bias truth please?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;five yeras past in still saying ” we stay the course” of what course may be untruthful reflections of the reality.&lt;/b&gt;

Given that this is your personal bias, it has nothing to do with the truth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>five yeras past in still saying ” we stay the course” of what course may be untruthful reflections of the reality.</b></p>
<p>Given that this is your personal bias, it has nothing to do with the truth.</p>
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		By: Salah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Thousands of years of custom are difficult to erase in 5 years.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

First apologies been out of main subject but I find I need to clear things.

I agree Arab and other third world having problems they are defiantly not developed not understand the life and humanity like the west were they built their primed of humanity and democracy with sacrifices long time ago.

So if you talking about corruption and other things don’t forgot there are nations in Africa in Latin America and in Asia having same problem more or less it’s not Just the Arab. The Arab more under the eyes because the money and more money make more corruptions.


By saying Thousands of years can be fixed by five years!   This is falls statement what I said is your US ambassador in Iraq had a problem and his Co not the Iraqis here the money vanished from US administration in Iraq headed by Paul Bremer not by Iraqi as far as we know.

&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;And Mossad was the instigator of 9/11.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Look,  don’t put your words in my mouth I did not said this, playing and mixing mangling in the words and diverting the subject  blame yourself for that don’t put it on me.

As far as CIA and Saddam there are many reports, I am not created this if you asked any Iraqi he will tell you same, he was promoted and helped by CIA to come to the power in Iraq. This is not my imaginations.

I agree that amount of weapons sold to him its very minor compare with others but that I think no reason to make believe he is not backed by US early days.

What France and Russia did before 2003 its due to their strategy of befits as US do anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Thousands of years of custom are difficult to erase in 5 years.</b></i></p>
<p>First apologies been out of main subject but I find I need to clear things.</p>
<p>I agree Arab and other third world having problems they are defiantly not developed not understand the life and humanity like the west were they built their primed of humanity and democracy with sacrifices long time ago.</p>
<p>So if you talking about corruption and other things don’t forgot there are nations in Africa in Latin America and in Asia having same problem more or less it’s not Just the Arab. The Arab more under the eyes because the money and more money make more corruptions.</p>
<p>By saying Thousands of years can be fixed by five years!   This is falls statement what I said is your US ambassador in Iraq had a problem and his Co not the Iraqis here the money vanished from US administration in Iraq headed by Paul Bremer not by Iraqi as far as we know.</p>
<p><i><b>And Mossad was the instigator of 9/11.</b></i></p>
<p>Look,  don’t put your words in my mouth I did not said this, playing and mixing mangling in the words and diverting the subject  blame yourself for that don’t put it on me.</p>
<p>As far as CIA and Saddam there are many reports, I am not created this if you asked any Iraqi he will tell you same, he was promoted and helped by CIA to come to the power in Iraq. This is not my imaginations.</p>
<p>I agree that amount of weapons sold to him its very minor compare with others but that I think no reason to make believe he is not backed by US early days.</p>
<p>What France and Russia did before 2003 its due to their strategy of befits as US do anyway.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Salah: 
We agree with each other: brutal and corrupt has been the prototypical Arab model of government. I point out Arafat and Saddam. You correctly  point out  Saudi Arabia. I agree with you that what Tony Blair did was shameful. You correctly point out Iraq’s corruption. Yes, Iraq DOES have a problem with corruption. Thousands of years of custom  are difficult to erase in 5 years.

 

&lt;b&gt; Why not shut up and look to yourself better. &lt;/b&gt;
I argue with facts, and you tell me to shut up. That says a lot more about you than it does about me. Why should I be surprised?  Arabs  are ruled by Arab tyrants  and adopt the tyrannical ways of their rulers. “Shut up” is what a tyrant says to his  oppressed subjects. 


&lt;b&gt;Isn’t Saddam was US spoiled kid though Rams field  went personally to hand him WMD? &lt;/b&gt; ( Rumsfeld)

And Mossad was the instigator of 9/11.( I hope you are able to detect the sarcasm in the previous sentence.) If you are willing to leave the world of fantasy, and deal with facts, consider the following fact. Saddam formally took power in 1979. From 1979-1990, the US accounted for&lt;a href=&quot;http://armstrade.sipri.org/arms_trade/values.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; 0.6 %  of  Iraq arms imports under Saddam’s rule .&lt;/a&gt; ( 6 tenths of one percent: 3 parts out of 500) . Saddam the spoiled child of the US, with less than 1% of arms sales from the US? Iraq’s arms purchases when Saddam was formally in power  came from the Soviet Bloc (62.5%), China (14.7%) and France (14.5%). It is interesting to note that both France and Russia were very much against the 2003 invasion of Iraq.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salah:<br />
We agree with each other: brutal and corrupt has been the prototypical Arab model of government. I point out Arafat and Saddam. You correctly  point out  Saudi Arabia. I agree with you that what Tony Blair did was shameful. You correctly point out Iraq’s corruption. Yes, Iraq DOES have a problem with corruption. Thousands of years of custom  are difficult to erase in 5 years.</p>
<p><b> Why not shut up and look to yourself better. </b><br />
I argue with facts, and you tell me to shut up. That says a lot more about you than it does about me. Why should I be surprised?  Arabs  are ruled by Arab tyrants  and adopt the tyrannical ways of their rulers. “Shut up” is what a tyrant says to his  oppressed subjects. </p>
<p><b>Isn’t Saddam was US spoiled kid though Rams field  went personally to hand him WMD? </b> ( Rumsfeld)</p>
<p>And Mossad was the instigator of 9/11.( I hope you are able to detect the sarcasm in the previous sentence.) If you are willing to leave the world of fantasy, and deal with facts, consider the following fact. Saddam formally took power in 1979. From 1979-1990, the US accounted for<a href="http://armstrade.sipri.org/arms_trade/values.php" rel="nofollow"> 0.6 %  of  Iraq arms imports under Saddam’s rule .</a> ( 6 tenths of one percent: 3 parts out of 500) . Saddam the spoiled child of the US, with less than 1% of arms sales from the US? Iraq’s arms purchases when Saddam was formally in power  came from the Soviet Bloc (62.5%), China (14.7%) and France (14.5%). It is interesting to note that both France and Russia were very much against the 2003 invasion of Iraq.</p>
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		By: Salah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 07:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;that Americans were actually rather big on correcting reporters’ mistakes.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Neoneo I wish this also be true for US administrations. five yeras past in still saying &quot; we stay the course&quot; of what course may be untruthful reflections of the reality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>that Americans were actually rather big on correcting reporters’ mistakes.</b></i></p>
<p>Neoneo I wish this also be true for US administrations. five yeras past in still saying &#8221; we stay the course&#8221; of what course may be untruthful reflections of the reality.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;After all, these people are journalists, and are supposed to be interested in the idea that veracity matters.&lt;/b&gt;

You&#039;ve got to be shatting me, Neo. That doesn&#039;t even parse as a hypothetical.

&lt;b&gt;Enderlin has–or used to have–an exemplary one, as do many of the signers, and so the wagons were circled to protect both his and, by implication, theirs:&lt;/b&gt;

This is why France lost WWII. When a nation becomes defunct and weak, destiny has a way of telling others that this has happened.

&lt;b&gt;and to willful deniers ignorant of the local realities and with no journalistic experience.”&lt;/b&gt;

Replace &quot;journalistic experience&quot; with &quot;proper aristocratic bloodlines&quot;, Neo, and you&#039;ll get what reading of things.

&lt;b&gt;Much of it boils down to the sentence “I did it for Charles.” &lt;/b&gt;

Serfs and retainers of a feudal lord are expected to die in defense of that lord, Neo.

&lt;b&gt;France seems to bestow ranks on its media journalists)&lt;/b&gt;

If you ask me, Neo, there&#039;s an obvious reason why.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>After all, these people are journalists, and are supposed to be interested in the idea that veracity matters.</b></p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got to be shatting me, Neo. That doesn&#8217;t even parse as a hypothetical.</p>
<p><b>Enderlin has–or used to have–an exemplary one, as do many of the signers, and so the wagons were circled to protect both his and, by implication, theirs:</b></p>
<p>This is why France lost WWII. When a nation becomes defunct and weak, destiny has a way of telling others that this has happened.</p>
<p><b>and to willful deniers ignorant of the local realities and with no journalistic experience.”</b></p>
<p>Replace &#8220;journalistic experience&#8221; with &#8220;proper aristocratic bloodlines&#8221;, Neo, and you&#8217;ll get what reading of things.</p>
<p><b>Much of it boils down to the sentence “I did it for Charles.” </b></p>
<p>Serfs and retainers of a feudal lord are expected to die in defense of that lord, Neo.</p>
<p><b>France seems to bestow ranks on its media journalists)</b></p>
<p>If you ask me, Neo, there&#8217;s an obvious reason why.</p>
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		By: Salah		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Salah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;those Arab Strongmen! Brutal, corrupt: describes both Saddam&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Welcome to club “Historical facts&quot; another blind and deaf member.

Isn’t Saddam was US spoiled kid though Rams field went personally to hand him WMD?

Wait I can’t stop what about Al-Saud Brutal, corrupt regime?

What about Prince Sultan (Former Saudi ambassador in US) took kickback Millions of US dollars form his Yamama project with full approval cheering him. Moreover Tony Blair the strong Man in UK went more further to closing down investigations after Prince Sultan is their more corrupt Dude.

Oh I just remember your stupid Sheikh the thief &quot;Ali Baba of Iraq&quot; Paul run with USD9.0 Billions how much corruption your guys got.

Why not shut up and look to yourself better.

I hope you feel better now isn’t?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>those Arab Strongmen! Brutal, corrupt: describes both Saddam</b></i></p>
<p>Welcome to club “Historical facts&#8221; another blind and deaf member.</p>
<p>Isn’t Saddam was US spoiled kid though Rams field went personally to hand him WMD?</p>
<p>Wait I can’t stop what about Al-Saud Brutal, corrupt regime?</p>
<p>What about Prince Sultan (Former Saudi ambassador in US) took kickback Millions of US dollars form his Yamama project with full approval cheering him. Moreover Tony Blair the strong Man in UK went more further to closing down investigations after Prince Sultan is their more corrupt Dude.</p>
<p>Oh I just remember your stupid Sheikh the thief &#8220;Ali Baba of Iraq&#8221; Paul run with USD9.0 Billions how much corruption your guys got.</p>
<p>Why not shut up and look to yourself better.</p>
<p>I hope you feel better now isn’t?</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s gotta suck to be Palestinian these days.  Even the true believers seem rather bewildered and beleaguered.

Iraqi Muslims turning against their &#039;brother&#039; AQI and Palis, and allying themselves with tribe Ameriki?  Things improving in Iraq, for the average Iraqi?  How can it be!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s gotta suck to be Palestinian these days.  Even the true believers seem rather bewildered and beleaguered.</p>
<p>Iraqi Muslims turning against their &#8216;brother&#8217; AQI and Palis, and allying themselves with tribe Ameriki?  Things improving in Iraq, for the average Iraqi?  How can it be!</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gringo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course Salah would have that point about Iraq. The Palis supported  Saddam&#039;s invasion of Kuwait. Love those Arab Strongmen! Brutal, corrupt: describes both Saddam and Arafat, though corrupt better describes Arafat, and brutal better describes Saddam. 

Unfortunately for the Palis, their support of Saddam got them  kicked out of Kuwait after Saddam got kicked out of Kuwait.  Oh well. The Palis do have a way of wearing out their welcome. Black September, Lebanon, etc. 

Saddam subsidized a Palestinian contingent in Iraq, in addition to paying cash rewards to families of Pali suicide bombers. 

Guess who were rather unpopular in Iraq after Saddam got kicked out of power? You got it, the Palis, who once again wore out their welcome. Guess there is some justice in the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course Salah would have that point about Iraq. The Palis supported  Saddam&#8217;s invasion of Kuwait. Love those Arab Strongmen! Brutal, corrupt: describes both Saddam and Arafat, though corrupt better describes Arafat, and brutal better describes Saddam. </p>
<p>Unfortunately for the Palis, their support of Saddam got them  kicked out of Kuwait after Saddam got kicked out of Kuwait.  Oh well. The Palis do have a way of wearing out their welcome. Black September, Lebanon, etc. </p>
<p>Saddam subsidized a Palestinian contingent in Iraq, in addition to paying cash rewards to families of Pali suicide bombers. </p>
<p>Guess who were rather unpopular in Iraq after Saddam got kicked out of power? You got it, the Palis, who once again wore out their welcome. Guess there is some justice in the world.</p>
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		By: harry McHitlerburtonstein the COnservative Extremist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harry McHitlerburtonstein the COnservative Extremist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess that&#039;s what I get argueing with a guy who was never interested in honesty anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#8217;s what I get argueing with a guy who was never interested in honesty anyway.</p>
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