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		By: Sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/06/09/remaking-this-great-nation-l-changement-cest-moi/#comment-72924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FredHjr
I lost any faith I had in P Volker when he covered for the UN, lending his name to shield the bastards, burying the worst information he found during his Oil for Food investigation. Until then I had respected the old bird. I imagine he did it under the belief that it was necessary to protect the system for the long run good. I just can&#039;t agree with that view. Best to call a rotten, corrupt and useless monster like the UN for what it is, rather than to pretend otherwise. I was unaware he had endorsed Obama.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FredHjr<br />
I lost any faith I had in P Volker when he covered for the UN, lending his name to shield the bastards, burying the worst information he found during his Oil for Food investigation. Until then I had respected the old bird. I imagine he did it under the belief that it was necessary to protect the system for the long run good. I just can&#8217;t agree with that view. Best to call a rotten, corrupt and useless monster like the UN for what it is, rather than to pretend otherwise. I was unaware he had endorsed Obama.</p>
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		By: FredHjr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/06/09/remaking-this-great-nation-l-changement-cest-moi/#comment-72917</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FredHjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am surprised that Paul Volker would come out and support Obonga.  I thought Volker was a Friedman disciple and a big believer in free markets and an unfettered economy.  Volker was appointed in 1980, when I was a sophomore at the University of New Hampshire.  I took a course called &quot;Money and Banking&quot; and we had quite a few discussions about what Volker was doing at the Fed.

So, in effect this election is really about a rejection of the Reagan legacy, which was quite an achievement - getting rid of the malaise and defeatism of the Carter years.  So, the elites yearn for THE CARTER DAYS?  Do these people not understand the history they lived through?  I can, to a certain extent, understand the under-40 crowd not knowing or understanding what that was all about.

By the way, I voted for Carter twice.  Not something I am proud of.  However, like neo-neocon I came late to more conservative thinking.  I actually made my break with the Left in 1987 and sort of vacillated in the no-man&#039;s land of being a moderate.  I started to move right-of-center after the U.S.S. Cole incident and the earlier African embassies bombings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am surprised that Paul Volker would come out and support Obonga.  I thought Volker was a Friedman disciple and a big believer in free markets and an unfettered economy.  Volker was appointed in 1980, when I was a sophomore at the University of New Hampshire.  I took a course called &#8220;Money and Banking&#8221; and we had quite a few discussions about what Volker was doing at the Fed.</p>
<p>So, in effect this election is really about a rejection of the Reagan legacy, which was quite an achievement &#8211; getting rid of the malaise and defeatism of the Carter years.  So, the elites yearn for THE CARTER DAYS?  Do these people not understand the history they lived through?  I can, to a certain extent, understand the under-40 crowd not knowing or understanding what that was all about.</p>
<p>By the way, I voted for Carter twice.  Not something I am proud of.  However, like neo-neocon I came late to more conservative thinking.  I actually made my break with the Left in 1987 and sort of vacillated in the no-man&#8217;s land of being a moderate.  I started to move right-of-center after the U.S.S. Cole incident and the earlier African embassies bombings.</p>
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		By: Sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/06/09/remaking-this-great-nation-l-changement-cest-moi/#comment-72911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FredHjr
One of the earliest adopters of &#039;elective studies&#039; in undergraduate university, if not the very first to institute the practice, was Harvard, the nation&#039;s oldest school of higher learning. This calamitous decision took place in the late 19th century. Harvard&#039;s competitors for high station in education, eager to demonstrate their own forward looking status followed soon thereafter. Before long the canon of western thought was a receding blob on the distant trailing horizon, nothing to concern us, now just &#039;dead white men&#039; as it is put, quickly forgotten. It has been downhill for liberal education ever since, despite the noble though doomed efforts of the occasional R M Hutchins, the Adlers, the Barrs and Buchanans. We still have the books and surely many decent scholars, but who will lead us back to our senses? I do not know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FredHjr<br />
One of the earliest adopters of &#8216;elective studies&#8217; in undergraduate university, if not the very first to institute the practice, was Harvard, the nation&#8217;s oldest school of higher learning. This calamitous decision took place in the late 19th century. Harvard&#8217;s competitors for high station in education, eager to demonstrate their own forward looking status followed soon thereafter. Before long the canon of western thought was a receding blob on the distant trailing horizon, nothing to concern us, now just &#8216;dead white men&#8217; as it is put, quickly forgotten. It has been downhill for liberal education ever since, despite the noble though doomed efforts of the occasional R M Hutchins, the Adlers, the Barrs and Buchanans. We still have the books and surely many decent scholars, but who will lead us back to our senses? I do not know.</p>
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		By: huxley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[huxley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m discouraged by how many bright people--not just average college educated liberals--are falling for Obama. I just learned the other day that Fred Volcker, the former chairman of the Fed, has endorsed Obama. 

It&#039;s true that Volcker is a Democrat and was appointed by Jimmy Carter but still... Volcker says he was motivated by all the challenges we face and how that requires new leadership and a fresh approach. However, I don&#039;t see anything new with Obama, I just hear evasive language disguising old approaches backed by little or no experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m discouraged by how many bright people&#8211;not just average college educated liberals&#8211;are falling for Obama. I just learned the other day that Fred Volcker, the former chairman of the Fed, has endorsed Obama. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that Volcker is a Democrat and was appointed by Jimmy Carter but still&#8230; Volcker says he was motivated by all the challenges we face and how that requires new leadership and a fresh approach. However, I don&#8217;t see anything new with Obama, I just hear evasive language disguising old approaches backed by little or no experience.</p>
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		By: FredHjr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/06/09/remaking-this-great-nation-l-changement-cest-moi/#comment-72892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FredHjr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sdferr,

I read the Sowell column earlier today.  I&#039;m a big fan of Thomas Sowell.  I majored in economics in college and had he been a prof at my university I would have taken a course with him.

So far in the campaign, the Obonga camp seems to be making all the early moves, either in reaction or proactively.  I sense that he and his people want to really pummel McCain early and hard.  They want to build an early lead and build on it.  Methinks it has to do with fundraising, and that they also want to keep on discouraging those who are disinclined to vote for him but are not enthusiastic about McCain.  Tonight, the Obonga campaign announced that they might select a former military man for the VP slot.  We know why they are doing that.  And we know who those retired generals are:  they are personally ambitious men who have no principles and would sell the Defense Department down the river.  The type of men who were promoted by Bill Clinton.

Obonga knows next to nothing about, for example, the missile defense program.  He calls it a failing system, when in reality it is hugely successful.  All he need do is to read the DoD press releases about the tests and the analysts take on them.  But, he has already made up his mind to go with Joe Cirincione&#039;s views on missile defense and on satellite defense in outer space.  The only thing that matters to Obonga is that The Ploughshares Fund is part of his progressive network and what they have to say about nuclear proliferation matters.  If they say that Iran getting the bomb is o.k., because Iran deserves having a deterrence in order for there to be multipolar balance in the world, then that&#039;s what he&#039;ll go with.

Obonga&#039;s &quot;brilliance&quot; is a shuck and jive.  What does it say about our culture that COLLEGE EDUCATED people cannot fact check and distinguish between substance and rhetorical emptiness?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sdferr,</p>
<p>I read the Sowell column earlier today.  I&#8217;m a big fan of Thomas Sowell.  I majored in economics in college and had he been a prof at my university I would have taken a course with him.</p>
<p>So far in the campaign, the Obonga camp seems to be making all the early moves, either in reaction or proactively.  I sense that he and his people want to really pummel McCain early and hard.  They want to build an early lead and build on it.  Methinks it has to do with fundraising, and that they also want to keep on discouraging those who are disinclined to vote for him but are not enthusiastic about McCain.  Tonight, the Obonga campaign announced that they might select a former military man for the VP slot.  We know why they are doing that.  And we know who those retired generals are:  they are personally ambitious men who have no principles and would sell the Defense Department down the river.  The type of men who were promoted by Bill Clinton.</p>
<p>Obonga knows next to nothing about, for example, the missile defense program.  He calls it a failing system, when in reality it is hugely successful.  All he need do is to read the DoD press releases about the tests and the analysts take on them.  But, he has already made up his mind to go with Joe Cirincione&#8217;s views on missile defense and on satellite defense in outer space.  The only thing that matters to Obonga is that The Ploughshares Fund is part of his progressive network and what they have to say about nuclear proliferation matters.  If they say that Iran getting the bomb is o.k., because Iran deserves having a deterrence in order for there to be multipolar balance in the world, then that&#8217;s what he&#8217;ll go with.</p>
<p>Obonga&#8217;s &#8220;brilliance&#8221; is a shuck and jive.  What does it say about our culture that COLLEGE EDUCATED people cannot fact check and distinguish between substance and rhetorical emptiness?</p>
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		By: Sdferr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/06/09/remaking-this-great-nation-l-changement-cest-moi/#comment-72887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sdferr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thomas Sowell wrote a nice takedown of Obama today on touching on just this sort of attitudinal display.
http://tinyurl.com/67gtec]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Sowell wrote a nice takedown of Obama today on touching on just this sort of attitudinal display.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/67gtec" rel="nofollow ugc">http://tinyurl.com/67gtec</a></p>
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		By: kamper		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kamper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If nothing else I think you&#039;ve come up with McCain&#039;s campaign slogan -- John McCain: Fine-tuning America! 

Now there&#039;s a winner.

It beats: &quot;That&#039;s not change we can believe in&quot; (cue creepy smile) from his depressing speech the other night.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If nothing else I think you&#8217;ve come up with McCain&#8217;s campaign slogan &#8212; John McCain: Fine-tuning America! </p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s a winner.</p>
<p>It beats: &#8220;That&#8217;s not change we can believe in&#8221; (cue creepy smile) from his depressing speech the other night.</p>
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		By: The Thunder Run		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Thunder Run]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Web Reconnaissance for 06/10/2008...&lt;/strong&gt;

A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day...so check back often....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Web Reconnaissance for 06/10/2008&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A short recon of what’s out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day&#8230;so check back often&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think some of the points made about the dem congress are especially fair since they had said they would fix some of those... and then they got worse.

Like Pelosi claiming that democrats had a plan to fix gas prices... which they didn&#039;t. And after winning congress and getting called on it claimed the plan was hearings by the executive branch.. When congress could do it own. Which they do every couple years… and find nothing...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think some of the points made about the dem congress are especially fair since they had said they would fix some of those&#8230; and then they got worse.</p>
<p>Like Pelosi claiming that democrats had a plan to fix gas prices&#8230; which they didn&#8217;t. And after winning congress and getting called on it claimed the plan was hearings by the executive branch.. When congress could do it own. Which they do every couple years… and find nothing&#8230;</p>
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		By: nyomythus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nyomythus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama want to be America&#039;s Akhenaten]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama want to be America&#8217;s Akhenaten</p>
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