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		By: Michael Adams		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-55285</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Trying again, third word from the end should be &quot;are&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying again, third word from the end should be &#8220;are&#8221;</p>
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		By: Michael Adams		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-55283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[oops: third word from the last should be ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops: third word from the last should be </p>
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		By: Michael Adams		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-55282</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Adams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 07:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is particularly nice about Neoneocon are the comments. There are plenty of good writers on Town Hall, for example. However, the comments, by supporters and even more by detractors, is simply demoralizing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is particularly nice about Neoneocon are the comments. There are plenty of good writers on Town Hall, for example. However, the comments, by supporters and even more by detractors, is simply demoralizing.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54887</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sixty Minutes--which I don&#039;t watch as a matter of honor--had an interview with the FBI guy who debriefed Saddaam during the latter&#039;s imprisonment.
So this is no longer a matter of wingnuts in their pajamas posting from their parents&#039; basements.


Saddaam was a pretty good fooler. Just a bit too good for his own benefit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sixty Minutes&#8211;which I don&#8217;t watch as a matter of honor&#8211;had an interview with the FBI guy who debriefed Saddaam during the latter&#8217;s imprisonment.<br />
So this is no longer a matter of wingnuts in their pajamas posting from their parents&#8217; basements.</p>
<p>Saddaam was a pretty good fooler. Just a bit too good for his own benefit.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54801</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What was that link to all the quotes by Democrats and Leftists about WMDs and comments that Bush also made?

Some commenter a few threads back posted it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was that link to all the quotes by Democrats and Leftists about WMDs and comments that Bush also made?</p>
<p>Some commenter a few threads back posted it.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54797</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 22:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clearly, the people who claim we should not be ignoring the theocrats in Iran would be having fits if we&#039;d ignored Saddaam and actually invaded Iran.
They think they have people convinced they have a stout, realistic, non-appeasement idea.
They don&#039;t.  They don&#039;t have a non-appeasement idea and they don&#039;t convince anybody they do.
They would oppose any forthright action except for bailing on Israel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, the people who claim we should not be ignoring the theocrats in Iran would be having fits if we&#8217;d ignored Saddaam and actually invaded Iran.<br />
They think they have people convinced they have a stout, realistic, non-appeasement idea.<br />
They don&#8217;t.  They don&#8217;t have a non-appeasement idea and they don&#8217;t convince anybody they do.<br />
They would oppose any forthright action except for bailing on Israel.</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vince P Says: 

January 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am 
&quot;The contradiction of taking out the Baathists in Iraq while avoiding the theocrats in Iran makes me wonder about the nature of Bush’s policies.

There is no contradiction. What there is is political reality..........&quot;

Exactly, and only the incredibly shallow and dishonest insist on continuing to &quot;nuance&quot; these events, failing to recognize the significant improvement in actual military strategic position that America (and it&#039;s true allies) now have in that area of the world, especially in Afghanistan and Iraq in comparison to 2001.... while our military has learned a lot of very important life saving lessons for a still ominous future; Too bad the voting public just left of center (McCain, the dead center, no question a RINO) to the left, is largely mired in crass political opportunism, superficiality and smug scapegoating...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vince P Says: </p>
<p>January 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am<br />
&#8220;The contradiction of taking out the Baathists in Iraq while avoiding the theocrats in Iran makes me wonder about the nature of Bush’s policies.</p>
<p>There is no contradiction. What there is is political reality&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly, and only the incredibly shallow and dishonest insist on continuing to &#8220;nuance&#8221; these events, failing to recognize the significant improvement in actual military strategic position that America (and it&#8217;s true allies) now have in that area of the world, especially in Afghanistan and Iraq in comparison to 2001&#8230;. while our military has learned a lot of very important life saving lessons for a still ominous future; Too bad the voting public just left of center (McCain, the dead center, no question a RINO) to the left, is largely mired in crass political opportunism, superficiality and smug scapegoating&#8230;</p>
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		By: harry9000		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[harry9000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;(take note, Harry…what exactly has McCain done to you that warrants hate versus mere disagreement?).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Call it disdain rather for dangerous populist policies, rather than outright hate.  I doubt you&#039;ll be seeing me on the beach someday announcing the anniversary of McCain&#039;s fall from grace, but note the date just in case I&#039;ve got nothing else going on that day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;(take note, Harry…what exactly has McCain done to you that warrants hate versus mere disagreement?).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Call it disdain rather for dangerous populist policies, rather than outright hate.  I doubt you&#8217;ll be seeing me on the beach someday announcing the anniversary of McCain&#8217;s fall from grace, but note the date just in case I&#8217;ve got nothing else going on that day.</p>
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		By: Vince P		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The contradiction of taking out the Baathists in Iraq while avoiding the theocrats in Iran makes me wonder about the nature of Bush’s policies.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There is no contradiction. What there is is political reality.

If you think all the people who are crying about the Iraq war being &quot;illegal&quot; would have happily accepted an invasion of Iran instead , you&#039;re nuts.

There is no way he could have invaded Iran instead of Iraq.. thre would be no Congressional support, no public support,  no UN support and no international support.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The contradiction of taking out the Baathists in Iraq while avoiding the theocrats in Iran makes me wonder about the nature of Bush’s policies.</p></blockquote>
<p>There is no contradiction. What there is is political reality.</p>
<p>If you think all the people who are crying about the Iraq war being &#8220;illegal&#8221; would have happily accepted an invasion of Iran instead , you&#8217;re nuts.</p>
<p>There is no way he could have invaded Iran instead of Iraq.. thre would be no Congressional support, no public support,  no UN support and no international support.</p>
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		By: Danny Lemieux		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/25/liars-and-the-lying-liars-who-tell-them/#comment-54687</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danny Lemieux]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Take a deep breath, SDN. 

We still have a Constitution. It&#039;s been violated far worse in the past and we got past that, too. I can disagree with that provision of McCain-Feingold without going into hysterics about the Constitution being shredded and I am convinced htat eventually it will work its way to the Supreme Court and be overthrown. If you want to talk about real threats to the Constitution, there are plenty more-serious things to talk about )e.g., 2nd Amendment, Kelo) but they, too, will get resolved.

And, last I checked, Mexico has no claim on my citizenship.

So, no, I don&#039;t get hysterical about McCain. Every candidate is flawed and I consider McCain&#039;s pluses to out-weighhis minuses. Doesn&#039;t mean that I will vote for him in the primaries..but I certainly will stay civil about it. And if the option is between McCain and the other party, I&#039;ll vote for him with a clear conscience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a deep breath, SDN. </p>
<p>We still have a Constitution. It&#8217;s been violated far worse in the past and we got past that, too. I can disagree with that provision of McCain-Feingold without going into hysterics about the Constitution being shredded and I am convinced htat eventually it will work its way to the Supreme Court and be overthrown. If you want to talk about real threats to the Constitution, there are plenty more-serious things to talk about )e.g., 2nd Amendment, Kelo) but they, too, will get resolved.</p>
<p>And, last I checked, Mexico has no claim on my citizenship.</p>
<p>So, no, I don&#8217;t get hysterical about McCain. Every candidate is flawed and I consider McCain&#8217;s pluses to out-weighhis minuses. Doesn&#8217;t mean that I will vote for him in the primaries..but I certainly will stay civil about it. And if the option is between McCain and the other party, I&#8217;ll vote for him with a clear conscience.</p>
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