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		By: Thomas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A: good choice on the picture. I googled her name when this started to come out and came up with a bunch of bland [natural-esq] pictures. Now I get it. Poor Sarko… stands no chance / doomed… 

B: as to sophistication…. I’ve talked with some bilingual [primary] French speakers and maybe I’m wrong, but from it, I took that I don’t think French (the language) has a corollary to things like ‘sophistication’.. sooo, can you understand such a word without it? IM(Anglo-English speaking)Opinion, no… As in, they no have no equivalent to a word like ‘simple’ which has a positive connotation to counter &#039;sophisticated&#039; (the closest was ‘simplistic’… which in both our languages has a negative connotation)… In the end, sophisticated becomes a sort of code word like equality… not meaning what it means… in some minds... (it ends up meaning, ‘without restraints of traditional morality’… not wise… or even.. what it should, sophisticated…).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A: good choice on the picture. I googled her name when this started to come out and came up with a bunch of bland [natural-esq] pictures. Now I get it. Poor Sarko… stands no chance / doomed… </p>
<p>B: as to sophistication…. I’ve talked with some bilingual [primary] French speakers and maybe I’m wrong, but from it, I took that I don’t think French (the language) has a corollary to things like ‘sophistication’.. sooo, can you understand such a word without it? IM(Anglo-English speaking)Opinion, no… As in, they no have no equivalent to a word like ‘simple’ which has a positive connotation to counter &#8216;sophisticated&#8217; (the closest was ‘simplistic’… which in both our languages has a negative connotation)… In the end, sophisticated becomes a sort of code word like equality… not meaning what it means… in some minds&#8230; (it ends up meaning, ‘without restraints of traditional morality’… not wise… or even.. what it should, sophisticated…).</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ooh la la, that&#039;s no monica.... and france is again our friend, so perhaps that&#039;s hopeful..... the question is can they, along with the rest of western europe survive their own myopia in the long run.... between those nasty demographics, and the car burnings every weekend, in the long run.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh la la, that&#8217;s no monica&#8230;. and france is again our friend, so perhaps that&#8217;s hopeful&#8230;.. the question is can they, along with the rest of western europe survive their own myopia in the long run&#8230;. between those nasty demographics, and the car burnings every weekend, in the long run&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/14/sarkozy-recherche-la-femme/#comment-53373</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 04:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a woman that is gravitated towards power. She can certainly keep and hold the attention of the men, though, given how many people in positions of importance have gotten relationship problems over her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a woman that is gravitated towards power. She can certainly keep and hold the attention of the men, though, given how many people in positions of importance have gotten relationship problems over her.</p>
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		By: be		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/14/sarkozy-recherche-la-femme/#comment-53354</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 01:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, Doom - I call Sarko the French Bill Clinton, which pisses all my Frenchie friends off.

Please keep in mind that Sarko didn&#039;t win by a large margin, and that he won based on the fact that he could out LePen LePen (seen as something like 12% of the electorate.)  Hortefeux and Guy Moquet aside, he&#039;s even p-ssing a lot of the FN types off, based on the &lt;i&gt;affiches&lt;/i&gt; I saw last Oct/Nov:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVr06fs1_W8

(FN posters stating that Sarkozy lied about Turkey)

Anyway, he led the better media campaign against lame-o Royal, but  that doesn&#039;t mean that he was the best for the job.

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Something that really bothers me here is how much people (particularly neo and other PJM people) were trumpeting that he was some sort of Agent of Change and that he was actually Reforming France.  Anywhere I mention that he&#039;s probably worse than Chirac in a lot of ways, I hear that France was never going to reform, and that I was an idiot to think otherwise.  Mind you, I&#039;m only a translator, and not a shrink or a politic, but the hypocrisy kind of hurts.  (Especially from PJM, given that I&#039;ve had a comment deleted by Poller when she couldn&#039;t rebut it.  Thought that they were supposed to be above that sort of thing.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Doom &#8211; I call Sarko the French Bill Clinton, which pisses all my Frenchie friends off.</p>
<p>Please keep in mind that Sarko didn&#8217;t win by a large margin, and that he won based on the fact that he could out LePen LePen (seen as something like 12% of the electorate.)  Hortefeux and Guy Moquet aside, he&#8217;s even p-ssing a lot of the FN types off, based on the <i>affiches</i> I saw last Oct/Nov:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVr06fs1_W8" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVr06fs1_W8</a></p>
<p>(FN posters stating that Sarkozy lied about Turkey)</p>
<p>Anyway, he led the better media campaign against lame-o Royal, but  that doesn&#8217;t mean that he was the best for the job.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Something that really bothers me here is how much people (particularly neo and other PJM people) were trumpeting that he was some sort of Agent of Change and that he was actually Reforming France.  Anywhere I mention that he&#8217;s probably worse than Chirac in a lot of ways, I hear that France was never going to reform, and that I was an idiot to think otherwise.  Mind you, I&#8217;m only a translator, and not a shrink or a politic, but the hypocrisy kind of hurts.  (Especially from PJM, given that I&#8217;ve had a comment deleted by Poller when she couldn&#8217;t rebut it.  Thought that they were supposed to be above that sort of thing.)</p>
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		By: Doom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was quite tongue in cheek, referring to Bill&#039;s foolish war regarding Kosovo.  We we there for the same reason France would, presumably, be in Poland or Algeria.  And, apparently, for the same reason you are indicating Sarkozy is front and center with this affair, marriage, whatever.  

con-alt-del

I am doing a side by side comparison for Sarkozy and Bill Clinton.  As if that was a true guide to whether a leader is sending people politically off track by his actions or what is brought up in news.  It was, and arguably so, believed that Clinton&#039;s public follies and wars were all media events aimed at covering one or another major weakness, political evils, or other such.  So, I am saying, if Sarkozy is being so bold and public to hide his own administrative follies, then expect a war with an unlikely receiver.  I picked two countries France might actually have some chance at winning, loosely, given no international resistance at least.

Now, it truth, he will never go to war with those countries no matter how bad (or most likely simply unpopular with the &quot;people&#039;s front&quot; types) his policies are.  It was satire, a jab at past politicians, and a silly notion.  However, I will debate it all day if you insist and still cannot see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was quite tongue in cheek, referring to Bill&#8217;s foolish war regarding Kosovo.  We we there for the same reason France would, presumably, be in Poland or Algeria.  And, apparently, for the same reason you are indicating Sarkozy is front and center with this affair, marriage, whatever.  </p>
<p>con-alt-del</p>
<p>I am doing a side by side comparison for Sarkozy and Bill Clinton.  As if that was a true guide to whether a leader is sending people politically off track by his actions or what is brought up in news.  It was, and arguably so, believed that Clinton&#8217;s public follies and wars were all media events aimed at covering one or another major weakness, political evils, or other such.  So, I am saying, if Sarkozy is being so bold and public to hide his own administrative follies, then expect a war with an unlikely receiver.  I picked two countries France might actually have some chance at winning, loosely, given no international resistance at least.</p>
<p>Now, it truth, he will never go to war with those countries no matter how bad (or most likely simply unpopular with the &#8220;people&#8217;s front&#8221; types) his policies are.  It was satire, a jab at past politicians, and a silly notion.  However, I will debate it all day if you insist and still cannot see.</p>
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		By: Vince P		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/14/sarkozy-recherche-la-femme/#comment-53287</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Be:

I know how you feel .. last year when the UK show Dispatches did their Undercover Mosque episode, I was looking forward to the media debate.. because I figured something that explicit and obvious and fundamentally frightening couldn&#039;t possibly be ignored... was ignored... becuase some actress on teh show Big Brother called the other from India a name or something.

That was soon followed by Iran taking UK Navy boys and girls hostage and UK doing nothing.

That&#039;s when it hit me.. the UK is finished.

What a depressing year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be:</p>
<p>I know how you feel .. last year when the UK show Dispatches did their Undercover Mosque episode, I was looking forward to the media debate.. because I figured something that explicit and obvious and fundamentally frightening couldn&#8217;t possibly be ignored&#8230; was ignored&#8230; becuase some actress on teh show Big Brother called the other from India a name or something.</p>
<p>That was soon followed by Iran taking UK Navy boys and girls hostage and UK doing nothing.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when it hit me.. the UK is finished.</p>
<p>What a depressing year.</p>
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		By: Sergey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She certainly looks like a true femme fatal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She certainly looks like a true femme fatal.</p>
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		By: Be		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2008/01/14/sarkozy-recherche-la-femme/#comment-53283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Be]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Doom: 
Your criteria for believing me (I&#039;m not asking you to, I&#039;m just laying things out as I see them) make no sense.  Why would France go to war with Algeria?  It&#039;s a great emerging market for French &quot;peaceful&quot; Nuclear technology!  

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/071204/monde/alg__rie_france_diplomatie_prev

Poland makes even less sense.  

I consume&quot;a lot of French news when over there.  The last cycle (just got back last week) was so frustrating, as I was looking for news on domestic policy issues (what they call &quot;pouvoir d&#039;achat,&quot;  DNA testing to repatriate families, university reform, NHS-style policy being imposed on the securite social system as it&#039;s about to tank, judicial reform, prison sentencing reform, etc) but found most space being taken up by Sarko / Bruni and the D@mn American primaries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doom:<br />
Your criteria for believing me (I&#8217;m not asking you to, I&#8217;m just laying things out as I see them) make no sense.  Why would France go to war with Algeria?  It&#8217;s a great emerging market for French &#8220;peaceful&#8221; Nuclear technology!  </p>
<p><a href="http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/071204/monde/alg__rie_france_diplomatie_prev" rel="nofollow ugc">http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/071204/monde/alg__rie_france_diplomatie_prev</a></p>
<p>Poland makes even less sense.  </p>
<p>I consume&#8221;a lot of French news when over there.  The last cycle (just got back last week) was so frustrating, as I was looking for news on domestic policy issues (what they call &#8220;pouvoir d&#8217;achat,&#8221;  DNA testing to repatriate families, university reform, NHS-style policy being imposed on the securite social system as it&#8217;s about to tank, judicial reform, prison sentencing reform, etc) but found most space being taken up by Sarko / Bruni and the D@mn American primaries.</p>
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		By: Richard Cook		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe the unsophisticated American phrase is:

&quot;What a maroon&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the unsophisticated American phrase is:</p>
<p>&#8220;What a maroon&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Doom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 05:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[be,

If it is a ploy, then certainly, it is tacky.  Though getting pregnant is a rather huge sacrifice, in modern parlance, especially if it really is merely a ploy.  Bill did not even do that, or at least none survived.  As well, when has there been good policy from French leadership?  That has been kept better hidden than anything else if it did occur, apparently.  Still, you might be correct, if second hand.  If France goes to war with Algeria or maybe even Poland, I would be more inclined to buy your story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be,</p>
<p>If it is a ploy, then certainly, it is tacky.  Though getting pregnant is a rather huge sacrifice, in modern parlance, especially if it really is merely a ploy.  Bill did not even do that, or at least none survived.  As well, when has there been good policy from French leadership?  That has been kept better hidden than anything else if it did occur, apparently.  Still, you might be correct, if second hand.  If France goes to war with Algeria or maybe even Poland, I would be more inclined to buy your story.</p>
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