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		By: jimfocus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48544</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimfocus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stumbley, I just read that post again...

&quot;Hubbah Hubbah, indeed!&quot;

omigod--I die every time I read that!

&quot;Now that&#039;s funny!&quot;
--Jack Benny]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stumbley, I just read that post again&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hubbah Hubbah, indeed!&#8221;</p>
<p>omigod&#8211;I die every time I read that!</p>
<p>&#8220;Now that&#8217;s funny!&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Jack Benny</p>
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		By: jimfocus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48513</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimfocus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gray, you and Stumbley are cracking me up--very funny stuff. BTW, what do you know about Primal Scream, very weird stuff.

I specialize in abnormal psychology and behavior disorders, so I could help a lot of you on this--no, I stopped myself, too easy and a little mean. You guys are on fire today, killing me.

&quot;You g*dd*m queen!&quot;
--Wm Buckley

&quot;Thank you!&quot;
--Gore Vidal]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray, you and Stumbley are cracking me up&#8211;very funny stuff. BTW, what do you know about Primal Scream, very weird stuff.</p>
<p>I specialize in abnormal psychology and behavior disorders, so I could help a lot of you on this&#8211;no, I stopped myself, too easy and a little mean. You guys are on fire today, killing me.</p>
<p>&#8220;You g*dd*m queen!&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Wm Buckley</p>
<p>&#8220;Thank you!&#8221;<br />
&#8211;Gore Vidal</p>
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		By: jimfocus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48512</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimfocus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK, Stumbley! Good one, nice shot back at me. I laughed. Touche.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Stumbley! Good one, nice shot back at me. I laughed. Touche.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48511</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gray and Harry, I know you two don&#039;t like certain people, but that&#039;s not a real good reason to get sidetracked from the issues. No matter what people say, their actions and their decisions will produce plenty to talk about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray and Harry, I know you two don&#8217;t like certain people, but that&#8217;s not a real good reason to get sidetracked from the issues. No matter what people say, their actions and their decisions will produce plenty to talk about.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48510</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Given that, it’s amazing that our forces have abided by the rules 99.9% of the time, that’s an outstanding achievement.&lt;/b&gt;

Thanks for recognizing that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Given that, it’s amazing that our forces have abided by the rules 99.9% of the time, that’s an outstanding achievement.</b></p>
<p>Thanks for recognizing that.</p>
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		By: stumbley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48505</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 22:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;In my opinion, my patients love and adore me.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Well, they&#039;re certainly in good company, apparently. I&#039;d imagine you&#039;re a little like a dermatologist, then–your patients never die, but they never get better, either.

Nyuk, nyuk. Just for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;In my opinion, my patients love and adore me.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Well, they&#8217;re certainly in good company, apparently. I&#8217;d imagine you&#8217;re a little like a dermatologist, then–your patients never die, but they never get better, either.</p>
<p>Nyuk, nyuk. Just for you.</p>
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		By: Gray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48503</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If you want Stumbley, I’ll post some of my awards and credentials as a therapist, but I don’t think you’d be impressed. In my opinion, my patients love and adore me. And unlike poor neo, my colleagues admire me 100%. &lt;/i&gt;

Holy cow!  You really are a therapist?!  I thought Harry was just kidding about that.

What do you specialize in?

Helping people get over their Patriotic Tendencies?

How to Give Up and Love Baby-boomer Nihilism and Snark?

Or maybe a &#039;self directed exploration&#039; of:

If It Isn&#039;t Perfect It Sucks (&#039;Cuz of the Jews)?

How about a group encounter of:  &quot;It&#039;s all Bush&#039;s fault!&quot;  with primal scream....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you want Stumbley, I’ll post some of my awards and credentials as a therapist, but I don’t think you’d be impressed. In my opinion, my patients love and adore me. And unlike poor neo, my colleagues admire me 100%. </i></p>
<p>Holy cow!  You really are a therapist?!  I thought Harry was just kidding about that.</p>
<p>What do you specialize in?</p>
<p>Helping people get over their Patriotic Tendencies?</p>
<p>How to Give Up and Love Baby-boomer Nihilism and Snark?</p>
<p>Or maybe a &#8216;self directed exploration&#8217; of:</p>
<p>If It Isn&#8217;t Perfect It Sucks (&#8216;Cuz of the Jews)?</p>
<p>How about a group encounter of:  &#8220;It&#8217;s all Bush&#8217;s fault!&#8221;  with primal scream&#8230;.</p>
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		By: jimfocus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48501</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimfocus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Harry, I don&#039;t think we really disagree that much, some on here think it&#039;s an attack on our troops if you mention the rules of war. 

BTW, I readily admit my sarcasm, and how lame it can be, but that&#039;s me--I love Wm. Buckley &#038; Gore Vidal, who hated each other, but are actually very alike. Now those two, there&#039;s major league sarcasm. I don&#039;t call anyone fascists, Nazis, babykillers, if you notice--do I poke gentle fun at some of the &quot;out there&quot; neocon screeds on here, well, yeah--it&#039;s too irresistable.

If you want Stumbley, I&#039;ll post some of my awards and credentials as a therapist, but I don&#039;t think you&#039;d be impressed. In my opinion, my patients love and adore me. And unlike poor neo, my colleagues admire me 100%. So there. Also, some of you guys writing &quot;Hubbah Hubbah&quot; &#038; &quot;yeeeh haaah&quot; in your posts have me in hysterics--too funny, man.

Nyuk! Nyuk!
--Sigmund Freud

&quot;We must move beyond the outdated notions of freedom and dignity.&quot;
--B. F. Skinner, neoconservative

(I can guess Sally&#039;s or Stumbley&#039;s post: : &quot;Nyuk Nyuk, indeed!!&quot; I&#039;m really hoping Sally actually writes &quot;nyuk&quot; in a venemous post--please, if there is a God...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, I don&#8217;t think we really disagree that much, some on here think it&#8217;s an attack on our troops if you mention the rules of war. </p>
<p>BTW, I readily admit my sarcasm, and how lame it can be, but that&#8217;s me&#8211;I love Wm. Buckley &amp; Gore Vidal, who hated each other, but are actually very alike. Now those two, there&#8217;s major league sarcasm. I don&#8217;t call anyone fascists, Nazis, babykillers, if you notice&#8211;do I poke gentle fun at some of the &#8220;out there&#8221; neocon screeds on here, well, yeah&#8211;it&#8217;s too irresistable.</p>
<p>If you want Stumbley, I&#8217;ll post some of my awards and credentials as a therapist, but I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;d be impressed. In my opinion, my patients love and adore me. And unlike poor neo, my colleagues admire me 100%. So there. Also, some of you guys writing &#8220;Hubbah Hubbah&#8221; &amp; &#8220;yeeeh haaah&#8221; in your posts have me in hysterics&#8211;too funny, man.</p>
<p>Nyuk! Nyuk!<br />
&#8211;Sigmund Freud</p>
<p>&#8220;We must move beyond the outdated notions of freedom and dignity.&#8221;<br />
&#8211;B. F. Skinner, neoconservative</p>
<p>(I can guess Sally&#8217;s or Stumbley&#8217;s post: : &#8220;Nyuk Nyuk, indeed!!&#8221; I&#8217;m really hoping Sally actually writes &#8220;nyuk&#8221; in a venemous post&#8211;please, if there is a God&#8230;)</p>
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		By: harry9000		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 20:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jimfocus:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Given that, it’s amazing that our forces have abided by the rules 99.9% of the time, that’s an outstanding achievement.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Thats because our culture, as practiced &lt;i&gt;is superior&lt;/i&gt; to that of the region they work in.  This despite all the warnings that the warmongers and torturers running policy is dragging us down to the level of the people we&#039;re fighting.  In fact, our guys spend an awful lot of time trying to impress upon the host military rudimentary civil ethics.  You know, the stuff they&#039;ve probably never been exposed to before.  Are &quot;waterboarding&quot; techniques included?  I dont know.  I do know from what I&#039;ve heard, it would probably be a superior cultural improvement over interrogation as historically practiced in the region.

I withdrawal my remarks doubting your authenticity as a former Federal agent, but a little amazed with the lack of diplomacy in your arguments.  You deride us about how quickly you think we result to insults,. yet your admonition appears selective and your own remarks are often laced with smug sarcasm.  Talk about your hypocrites.

Gray is right in that dealing with &quot;bad actors&quot; over seas cannot be confused with how we deal with them within our own borders.  But before you accuse me of using that as an excuse to apply any and all means to obtain our ends, you are be reminded again that no one here has argued that established rules of warfare should be discarded, or that ROE be ignored.  We argue that armed conflict, once engaged, should be vigorously pursued to a successful (for us, od course) conclusion  Thats not very controversial an idea is it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimfocus:<br />
<i>&#8220;Given that, it’s amazing that our forces have abided by the rules 99.9% of the time, that’s an outstanding achievement.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Thats because our culture, as practiced <i>is superior</i> to that of the region they work in.  This despite all the warnings that the warmongers and torturers running policy is dragging us down to the level of the people we&#8217;re fighting.  In fact, our guys spend an awful lot of time trying to impress upon the host military rudimentary civil ethics.  You know, the stuff they&#8217;ve probably never been exposed to before.  Are &#8220;waterboarding&#8221; techniques included?  I dont know.  I do know from what I&#8217;ve heard, it would probably be a superior cultural improvement over interrogation as historically practiced in the region.</p>
<p>I withdrawal my remarks doubting your authenticity as a former Federal agent, but a little amazed with the lack of diplomacy in your arguments.  You deride us about how quickly you think we result to insults,. yet your admonition appears selective and your own remarks are often laced with smug sarcasm.  Talk about your hypocrites.</p>
<p>Gray is right in that dealing with &#8220;bad actors&#8221; over seas cannot be confused with how we deal with them within our own borders.  But before you accuse me of using that as an excuse to apply any and all means to obtain our ends, you are be reminded again that no one here has argued that established rules of warfare should be discarded, or that ROE be ignored.  We argue that armed conflict, once engaged, should be vigorously pursued to a successful (for us, od course) conclusion  Thats not very controversial an idea is it?</p>
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		By: stumbley		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/12/01/annapolis-for-better-or-for-worse/#comment-48490</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jim, you must be a &lt;i&gt;heckuva&lt;/i&gt; therapist!

Hubbah, hubbah, indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jim, you must be a <i>heckuva</i> therapist!</p>
<p>Hubbah, hubbah, indeed.</p>
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