Comments on: Hierarchies of responsibility: picking and choosing in the blame game https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/ A blog about political change, among other things Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:03:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: electrical contractors houston https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-325066 Sat, 03 Mar 2012 21:03:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-325066 electrical contractors houston…

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]]> By: Gray https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48558 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 03:55:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48558 Whoa, wasn’t me. My last comment was about soldiers who died in Iraq not having died in vain. I’d never take a cheap shot like that at anybody.

No, it wasn’t you. Sorry. I’ll be more careful in the future.

]]> By: Xanthippas https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48519 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 00:01:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48519 My reply is to Xan who ‘hoped I didn’t torture anyone while I was in Iraq’….

Whoa, wasn’t me. My last comment was about soldiers who died in Iraq not having died in vain. I’d never take a cheap shot like that at anybody. I don’t ever presume that the vast and overwhelming majority of our soldiers have served anything less than honorably in Iraq.

I am still interested in your views on soldiers and sacrifice in (perhaps) mis-guided wars. But the comment thread’s been hijacked by the torture debate, so I’ll leave it be for now.

]]> By: Gray https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48499 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:19:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48499 This is an example of experience getting in the way of adapting to new situations.

Like asking a rape victim for sex advice….

]]> By: Ymarsakar https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48477 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 17:52:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48477 Gray, given that Laura believes waterboarding is torture, does it then not follow that she would believe American soldiers are being tortured since they use waterboarding in SERE? Would she not then care about your soul, Gray?

Ask John McCain what torture is.
-Stumbley on the Annapolis thread

Well, McCain, because of his experiences, sets to high a bar on our interrogators. He does know what torture is, so he doesn’t want to see the US go anywhere close to that road, no matter how necessary it becomes. This is an example of experience getting in the way of adapting to new situations.

]]> By: Gray https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48465 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:03:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48465 Gray, you wouldn’t torture unless you broke the rules governing what soldiers can and cannot do, period.

Exactly. We don’t torture anyone.

My reply is to Xan who ‘hoped I didn’t torture anyone while I was in Iraq’….

]]> By: Gray https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48464 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:01:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48464 Btw, Gray, don’t ever go into the Q-Course or SERE. They will waterboard you or make you waterboard others. That would just degrade your … um gray soul, Gray.

I don’t know why you direct that comment at me…. I’m torture-ambivalent. I just don’t care.

We don’t even ‘toture’ anyone, we make them uncomfortable….

]]> By: Laura https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48453 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 14:20:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48453 Gray, you wouldn’t torture unless you broke the rules governing what soldiers can and cannot do, period.

]]> By: Ymarsakar https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48447 Tue, 04 Dec 2007 12:32:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/28/hierarchies-of-responsibility-picking-and-choosing-in-the-blame-game/#comment-48447 Btw, Gray, don’t ever go into the Q-Course or SERE. They will waterboard you or make you waterboard others. That would just degrade your … um gray soul, Gray.

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