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		By: Charlette Jackson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-191311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlette Jackson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the real estate in my area is picking up soon]]></description>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-134476</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Yep, things are going just great in Iraq, couldn’t be better. But it is a true measure of Neocon policy – a bunch of incompetent thugs trying to force other people to do their bidding while stealing their oil. Democracy at the point of a gun is not democracy.&lt;/b&gt;

Leftist plantation slaves, adoption of terrorist and ACORN criminals, now that must be your Democrat&#039;s Democracy.

Eat your crow little girl and boy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Yep, things are going just great in Iraq, couldn’t be better. But it is a true measure of Neocon policy – a bunch of incompetent thugs trying to force other people to do their bidding while stealing their oil. Democracy at the point of a gun is not democracy.</b></p>
<p>Leftist plantation slaves, adoption of terrorist and ACORN criminals, now that must be your Democrat&#8217;s Democracy.</p>
<p>Eat your crow little girl and boy.</p>
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		By: OmegaPaladin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47727</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OmegaPaladin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just read this whole thing, and the only person who seems to be trolling is Laura.  Laura, launching continual barrages of arguments on different points is quite simply trolling.  It comes off like you are trying to make up for poor quality arguments with massive quantity.

Jim - the humor is not really effective.  You remind me of my friend Kelly.  He would always try to make political points using humor, though he was better at it than you.  I honestly thought you were a right-wing guy trying to parody a leftist for your first few posts.

Your talk about your experience in the media was interesting.  I&#039;d actually suggest you check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.julescrittenden.com/&quot; title=&quot;Jules Crittenden&#039;s site&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;  He&#039;s a right-wing journalist, with a comment section that might better appreciate your humor.

Oh, and an open question to all advocates of the chickenhawk idea:  Do you support turning over military control to veterans and active-duty personnel?  Just asking.

Xanthippas and Chris don&#039;t really seem to be trolling.  Thank you, it is appreciated.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read this whole thing, and the only person who seems to be trolling is Laura.  Laura, launching continual barrages of arguments on different points is quite simply trolling.  It comes off like you are trying to make up for poor quality arguments with massive quantity.</p>
<p>Jim &#8211; the humor is not really effective.  You remind me of my friend Kelly.  He would always try to make political points using humor, though he was better at it than you.  I honestly thought you were a right-wing guy trying to parody a leftist for your first few posts.</p>
<p>Your talk about your experience in the media was interesting.  I&#8217;d actually suggest you check out <a href="http://www.julescrittenden.com/" title="Jules Crittenden's site" rel="nofollow">  He&#8217;s a right-wing journalist, with a comment section that might better appreciate your humor.</p>
<p>Oh, and an open question to all advocates of the chickenhawk idea:  Do you support turning over military control to veterans and active-duty personnel?  Just asking.</p>
<p>Xanthippas and Chris don&#8217;t really seem to be trolling.  Thank you, it is appreciated.</a></p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jimfocus Says: 

November 26th, 2007 at 2:15 am 
Hey, Perfected

&quot;You really feel safer? Then you agree w/ Jon Bolton that we should withdraw? Remember, Iran wasn’t near the problem 6 years ago ....&quot;

i definitely feel safer, considering mo&#039;s gang numbers in the 1.5 billion category size from which to draw, and considering things are constantly in flux and evolving everyday, not static... some of the most dangerous people on earth are now dead, there may be much more to do, but some of the eagerest of beavers are now out of commission... of course guessing the future is always conjecture, but saddam was one of the important heads of the hydra, and now at least that one is gone... if our troops had to face both iraq and iran ten years from now simultaneously? the long-term danger from saddam alone is certainly less.... as far as withdrawl is considered, i&#039;d feel better if the military was more vocal and influential in the decision making than moveon.dork......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimfocus Says: </p>
<p>November 26th, 2007 at 2:15 am<br />
Hey, Perfected</p>
<p>&#8220;You really feel safer? Then you agree w/ Jon Bolton that we should withdraw? Remember, Iran wasn’t near the problem 6 years ago &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>i definitely feel safer, considering mo&#8217;s gang numbers in the 1.5 billion category size from which to draw, and considering things are constantly in flux and evolving everyday, not static&#8230; some of the most dangerous people on earth are now dead, there may be much more to do, but some of the eagerest of beavers are now out of commission&#8230; of course guessing the future is always conjecture, but saddam was one of the important heads of the hydra, and now at least that one is gone&#8230; if our troops had to face both iraq and iran ten years from now simultaneously? the long-term danger from saddam alone is certainly less&#8230;. as far as withdrawl is considered, i&#8217;d feel better if the military was more vocal and influential in the decision making than moveon.dork&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Laura		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47420</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sally, as a follow up to the Iran threat, I find it troubling that the NIE on Iran has been held up for over a year because of dissenting opinion by some of the intel analysts.  There have been many references to this lately, although somewhat quiet have to look for them.  

What I find troubling is the White House involvement in crafting the NIE in order to reflect what Cheney and his advisors would like it to reflect.  This seems too much like the estimates on Iraq prior to the war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally, as a follow up to the Iran threat, I find it troubling that the NIE on Iran has been held up for over a year because of dissenting opinion by some of the intel analysts.  There have been many references to this lately, although somewhat quiet have to look for them.  </p>
<p>What I find troubling is the White House involvement in crafting the NIE in order to reflect what Cheney and his advisors would like it to reflect.  This seems too much like the estimates on Iraq prior to the war.</p>
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		By: Laura		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47418</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jimf and all,

here is a dan froomkin peice in the wapo that i found interesting.  it does talk about iran later in the article

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/09/24/BL2007092400717_pf.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimf and all,</p>
<p>here is a dan froomkin peice in the wapo that i found interesting.  it does talk about iran later in the article</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/09/24/BL2007092400717_pf.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2007/09/24/BL2007092400717_pf.html</a></p>
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		By: Sally		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sally]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jimf: &lt;i&gt;Hey, I do my best on the humor thing but I definitely could improve&lt;/i&gt;

Right. Maybe you could practice someplace else?

On the other hand, you do have a humorous impression of the classic armchair military strategist, pulling imaginary tactics, threats, logistics, etc., out of thin air. There actually is a building that has quite a few, you know, &quot;military experts&quot; whose job it is to plan these things out. Not to say they haven&#039;t, and won&#039;t made/make mistakes, but they&#039;re probably less likely to do so than you or I (or Laura). The real question -- one that&#039;s more on the citizen level -- is whether Iran constitutes a serious enough menace to make it necessary to take out out their nuclear capability. There are fears associated with doing so, certainly, but letting such fears cause us to ignore or belittle real threats is mere cowardice.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimf: <i>Hey, I do my best on the humor thing but I definitely could improve</i></p>
<p>Right. Maybe you could practice someplace else?</p>
<p>On the other hand, you do have a humorous impression of the classic armchair military strategist, pulling imaginary tactics, threats, logistics, etc., out of thin air. There actually is a building that has quite a few, you know, &#8220;military experts&#8221; whose job it is to plan these things out. Not to say they haven&#8217;t, and won&#8217;t made/make mistakes, but they&#8217;re probably less likely to do so than you or I (or Laura). The real question &#8212; one that&#8217;s more on the citizen level &#8212; is whether Iran constitutes a serious enough menace to make it necessary to take out out their nuclear capability. There are fears associated with doing so, certainly, but letting such fears cause us to ignore or belittle real threats is mere cowardice.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Because it teaches them to stand up on the “principle” of this war and all it represents&lt;/b&gt;

Stop this fakeness, Laura. You don&#039;t believe in the classical liberal principle by which this war was started upon.

What you believe is that other people need to make things easy for yourself and your own. Does amoral familism ring a bell?

It would be one thing if you actually believed what you were saying, but it is the same thing as fake liberals talking about Americans bombing civilians. They never cared in the first place, so why should fake liberals care now?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Because it teaches them to stand up on the “principle” of this war and all it represents</b></p>
<p>Stop this fakeness, Laura. You don&#8217;t believe in the classical liberal principle by which this war was started upon.</p>
<p>What you believe is that other people need to make things easy for yourself and your own. Does amoral familism ring a bell?</p>
<p>It would be one thing if you actually believed what you were saying, but it is the same thing as fake liberals talking about Americans bombing civilians. They never cared in the first place, so why should fake liberals care now?</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47383</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jimf.. says : &quot;What scares me is the thought that Bush will pull a late-in-the-term stunt and ...&quot;

maybe jim... but maybe annapolis is the stunt. by definition, negotiation with islamists (saudis especially) more than implies a replay of &quot;the treaty of hudaibiya&quot; (in 628). &quot;shallow&quot; is apparently a communicable disease...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimf.. says : &#8220;What scares me is the thought that Bush will pull a late-in-the-term stunt and &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>maybe jim&#8230; but maybe annapolis is the stunt. by definition, negotiation with islamists (saudis especially) more than implies a replay of &#8220;the treaty of hudaibiya&#8221; (in 628). &#8220;shallow&#8221; is apparently a communicable disease&#8230;</p>
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		By: jimfocus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/23/guess-who-wrote/#comment-47370</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimfocus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Sally-bo, what&#039;s uuup! Thanks for keeping the insult level down on that last post--refreshing. Hey, I do my best on the humor thing but I definitely could improve--maybe you could do a post w/ humor, for a change, &#038; show me what passes for humor w/ you, OK?

Laura, you touch on the growing crisis with the Iraq occupation, the troop levels will have to be cut, no matter what, in 2008. What scares me is the thought that Bush will pull a late-in-the-term stunt &#038; go after Iran. Has anybody figured out what Iran just might do in response to a pre-emptive unilateral strike by us? Or did you think they were going to sit there &#038; do nothing? If we did strike them from the air, wouldn&#039;t we have to deploy troops to prevent Iran from trying to cut off the oil--that seems like a logical reaction by them. Where would the troops come from? But I&#039;m far from a military expert--maybe some one out there who is military or former military might have thoughts on what we have to plan for in the aftermath of an airstrike on Iran. It seems that a strike is becoming inevitable, I just read in FT that the Saudis believe Bush is going to do it and they fear huge repercussions against them from Iran, which hates them--given what happened w/ not thinking through the occupation of Iraq, I worry the same thing might happen w/ Iran.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Sally-bo, what&#8217;s uuup! Thanks for keeping the insult level down on that last post&#8211;refreshing. Hey, I do my best on the humor thing but I definitely could improve&#8211;maybe you could do a post w/ humor, for a change, &amp; show me what passes for humor w/ you, OK?</p>
<p>Laura, you touch on the growing crisis with the Iraq occupation, the troop levels will have to be cut, no matter what, in 2008. What scares me is the thought that Bush will pull a late-in-the-term stunt &amp; go after Iran. Has anybody figured out what Iran just might do in response to a pre-emptive unilateral strike by us? Or did you think they were going to sit there &amp; do nothing? If we did strike them from the air, wouldn&#8217;t we have to deploy troops to prevent Iran from trying to cut off the oil&#8211;that seems like a logical reaction by them. Where would the troops come from? But I&#8217;m far from a military expert&#8211;maybe some one out there who is military or former military might have thoughts on what we have to plan for in the aftermath of an airstrike on Iran. It seems that a strike is becoming inevitable, I just read in FT that the Saudis believe Bush is going to do it and they fear huge repercussions against them from Iran, which hates them&#8211;given what happened w/ not thinking through the occupation of Iraq, I worry the same thing might happen w/ Iran.</p>
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