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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Laura is different from X in her belief in Leftist ideology, given that Laura comes from the paleo-con faction of the Republican party. Or rather, former Republican party. So she is more like Joe Scarborough, Pat Buchanan, and such than MoveOn and Nancy Pelosi.

Doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t be allies, of course. Just like Syrian Baathist-Sunnis allied with Islamic Revolutionary Shia Iran.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura is different from X in her belief in Leftist ideology, given that Laura comes from the paleo-con faction of the Republican party. Or rather, former Republican party. So she is more like Joe Scarborough, Pat Buchanan, and such than MoveOn and Nancy Pelosi.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t be allies, of course. Just like Syrian Baathist-Sunnis allied with Islamic Revolutionary Shia Iran.</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46126</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[last comment, promise...

sacrifices? that&#039;s crypto for &quot;bush&#039;s tax cuts&quot; isn&#039;t it laura? for a little reality check out this on today&#039;s townhall.com:

Congressional and Leftist Lies
By Walter E. Williams
Wednesday, November 14, 2007]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>last comment, promise&#8230;</p>
<p>sacrifices? that&#8217;s crypto for &#8220;bush&#8217;s tax cuts&#8221; isn&#8217;t it laura? for a little reality check out this on today&#8217;s townhall.com:</p>
<p>Congressional and Leftist Lies<br />
By Walter E. Williams<br />
Wednesday, November 14, 2007</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46121</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[p.s. forgot to directly address laura&#039;s rant:

&quot;You haven’t done a single thing, sacrificed nothing while we are at war, except to pat Bushco on the back..... Get over yourselves, all of you.&quot;

nothing to get over laura, look in the mirror, it&#039;s the old double standard... you make sweeping accusations of people you really know nothing at all about for expressing solidarity and respect of the troops, their mission, and leaders in the same spirit as ww2... in your world, military or any other participation or sacrifice is entirely optional when you wish to disagree, criticize and undermine the ultimately noble and important struggle of which the iraq war is one important part.... at the very least we have every bit as much right to our opinions as you do....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. forgot to directly address laura&#8217;s rant:</p>
<p>&#8220;You haven’t done a single thing, sacrificed nothing while we are at war, except to pat Bushco on the back&#8230;.. Get over yourselves, all of you.&#8221;</p>
<p>nothing to get over laura, look in the mirror, it&#8217;s the old double standard&#8230; you make sweeping accusations of people you really know nothing at all about for expressing solidarity and respect of the troops, their mission, and leaders in the same spirit as ww2&#8230; in your world, military or any other participation or sacrifice is entirely optional when you wish to disagree, criticize and undermine the ultimately noble and important struggle of which the iraq war is one important part&#8230;. at the very least we have every bit as much right to our opinions as you do&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Perfected democrat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46119</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perfected democrat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Laura&#039;s world&quot;:

laura&#039;s angry..... in her convoluted world gw is the enemy, and the measure of legitimacy is the international left-wing and muslim popularity meter... glossing over sadaam&#039;s history as one of the foremost mass murderers and scorched earth despots in the last three decades, along with a well established history of wmd ambition, and murky, but obvious complicity and involvement in muslim terrorism, deadly enemy of america, israel, even muslims countries around him, a classic &quot;hitler&quot; whose ambitions are only checked by a force like america... then all the other dangers about, iran exemplified by the little nut job with the slimy smile and declarations of genocidal intent against not just israel, but america too; china with it&#039;s unnecessary arms buildup aiming towards a coming invasion of taiwan, after swallowing tibet with the ethnic cleansing, mass murder, and subjugation of the tibetan people, and as the force that mainly props up the regime in north korea, with it&#039;s own implications in wmd proliferation, genocide, and well documented threats to south korea, japan, and the u.s.; then russia under putin, it&#039;s direction is not hard to see, without blinders on.... 
in &quot;laura&#039;s world&quot; the democrat&#039;s will negotiate our enemies to death and establish peace on earth thru more and greater national government agencies and social programs, all financed with ever higher taxes, which is otherwise called socialism; like hillary said, she has so many great ideas we can&#039;t afford them all; but we know the real history of socialism and it&#039;s &quot;contributions&quot; to this world in comparison to free enterprise capitalism in combination with fair unfettered liberty...  laura&#039;s angry, and she&#039;s not going to take it any more, typical current day democrats, dishonest, incompetent blowhards (at the top), propped up by oblivious, shallow left-wing fools at the grass roots level... no reason to worry with leaders like carter, kucinich, teddy, the clintons and the ultimate global warmer blowhard all by himself gore... have a nice day laura!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Laura&#8217;s world&#8221;:</p>
<p>laura&#8217;s angry&#8230;.. in her convoluted world gw is the enemy, and the measure of legitimacy is the international left-wing and muslim popularity meter&#8230; glossing over sadaam&#8217;s history as one of the foremost mass murderers and scorched earth despots in the last three decades, along with a well established history of wmd ambition, and murky, but obvious complicity and involvement in muslim terrorism, deadly enemy of america, israel, even muslims countries around him, a classic &#8220;hitler&#8221; whose ambitions are only checked by a force like america&#8230; then all the other dangers about, iran exemplified by the little nut job with the slimy smile and declarations of genocidal intent against not just israel, but america too; china with it&#8217;s unnecessary arms buildup aiming towards a coming invasion of taiwan, after swallowing tibet with the ethnic cleansing, mass murder, and subjugation of the tibetan people, and as the force that mainly props up the regime in north korea, with it&#8217;s own implications in wmd proliferation, genocide, and well documented threats to south korea, japan, and the u.s.; then russia under putin, it&#8217;s direction is not hard to see, without blinders on&#8230;.<br />
in &#8220;laura&#8217;s world&#8221; the democrat&#8217;s will negotiate our enemies to death and establish peace on earth thru more and greater national government agencies and social programs, all financed with ever higher taxes, which is otherwise called socialism; like hillary said, she has so many great ideas we can&#8217;t afford them all; but we know the real history of socialism and it&#8217;s &#8220;contributions&#8221; to this world in comparison to free enterprise capitalism in combination with fair unfettered liberty&#8230;  laura&#8217;s angry, and she&#8217;s not going to take it any more, typical current day democrats, dishonest, incompetent blowhards (at the top), propped up by oblivious, shallow left-wing fools at the grass roots level&#8230; no reason to worry with leaders like carter, kucinich, teddy, the clintons and the ultimate global warmer blowhard all by himself gore&#8230; have a nice day laura!</p>
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		By: Xanthippas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46109</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xanthippas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Grunts and privates are easy to get. Coincidentally, Congress is in charge of military expenditure/size oversight. I wish Bush could wave an arm, like Emperor Augustus, and the Senate would do his bidding. But wishes are fishes.&lt;/i&gt;

Y, my lectures on the value of the Constitution are obviously not sticking very well with you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Grunts and privates are easy to get. Coincidentally, Congress is in charge of military expenditure/size oversight. I wish Bush could wave an arm, like Emperor Augustus, and the Senate would do his bidding. But wishes are fishes.</i></p>
<p>Y, my lectures on the value of the Constitution are obviously not sticking very well with you.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46101</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Bush has had HOW MANY YEARS to build the military?&lt;/b&gt;

That depends upon how many years you think it takes to train officers to lead platoons and companies, along with the NCOs to lead the same.

Grunts and privates are easy to get. Coincidentally, Congress is in charge of military expenditure/size oversight. I wish Bush could wave an arm, like Emperor Augustus, and the Senate would do his bidding. But wishes are fishes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Bush has had HOW MANY YEARS to build the military?</b></p>
<p>That depends upon how many years you think it takes to train officers to lead platoons and companies, along with the NCOs to lead the same.</p>
<p>Grunts and privates are easy to get. Coincidentally, Congress is in charge of military expenditure/size oversight. I wish Bush could wave an arm, like Emperor Augustus, and the Senate would do his bidding. But wishes are fishes.</p>
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		By: Laura		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46100</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh please, such crap as a response really.  And, the thing is, you all believe it.  Bush has had HOW MANY YEARS to build the military?

Get over yourselves, all of you.

You haven&#039;t done a single thing, sacrificed nothing while we are at war, except to pat Bushco on the back.  Good luck with that same dribble.

Angry?  Hell yes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh please, such crap as a response really.  And, the thing is, you all believe it.  Bush has had HOW MANY YEARS to build the military?</p>
<p>Get over yourselves, all of you.</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t done a single thing, sacrificed nothing while we are at war, except to pat Bushco on the back.  Good luck with that same dribble.</p>
<p>Angry?  Hell yes.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46096</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[it is not as if they themselves [thought] up what was wrong with Bush.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is not as if they themselves [thought] up what was wrong with Bush.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46095</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Those old time military miners dug tunnels into the earth just like any other kind of miner.  And the object of all that pick and shovel work was to undermine.

How is your morale these days? 

Are you more enthusiastic about your tribe/nation-state/political party [pick one] and more confident about its success in the future?  Or less?  Speaking as a proud member of the al-Ameriki tribe, I’m slightly more enthusiastic than usual, this being a national holiday and all, but my confidence is wavering.  I see a lot of undermining going on, and I don’t like it, and I’m looking for ways to stop it, and repair the damage.

Somebody is running Morale Operations on my people.  They are my enemies.  I want them neutralized or destroyed.  My perception has been managed by somebody so that I perceive my government to be incapable, incompetant, or unwilling to counter these Morale Operations.  I can hear the tunnelers digging.  Our walls will fall if nothing is done.  The garrison commander chooses not to hear the digging.  The Royal Engineers don’t think it’s their job. 

Grab a shovel, boys and girls.  The Civilian Irregular Corps of Sappers and Miners have counter mines to dig. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/sappers-miners-and-underminers/

Certainly there are problems with Bush, but those problems are not what most people think they are. After all, it is not as if they themselves up what was wrong with Bush. People had already come up with what was wrong with Bush and convinced others of the fact. This is not original thought or analysis such as what Neo-Neocon does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Those old time military miners dug tunnels into the earth just like any other kind of miner.  And the object of all that pick and shovel work was to undermine.</p>
<p>How is your morale these days? </p>
<p>Are you more enthusiastic about your tribe/nation-state/political party [pick one] and more confident about its success in the future?  Or less?  Speaking as a proud member of the al-Ameriki tribe, I’m slightly more enthusiastic than usual, this being a national holiday and all, but my confidence is wavering.  I see a lot of undermining going on, and I don’t like it, and I’m looking for ways to stop it, and repair the damage.</p>
<p>Somebody is running Morale Operations on my people.  They are my enemies.  I want them neutralized or destroyed.  My perception has been managed by somebody so that I perceive my government to be incapable, incompetant, or unwilling to counter these Morale Operations.  I can hear the tunnelers digging.  Our walls will fall if nothing is done.  The garrison commander chooses not to hear the digging.  The Royal Engineers don’t think it’s their job. </p>
<p>Grab a shovel, boys and girls.  The Civilian Irregular Corps of Sappers and Miners have counter mines to dig.
</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/sappers-miners-and-underminers/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://cannoneerno4.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/sappers-miners-and-underminers/</a></p>
<p>Certainly there are problems with Bush, but those problems are not what most people think they are. After all, it is not as if they themselves up what was wrong with Bush. People had already come up with what was wrong with Bush and convinced others of the fact. This is not original thought or analysis such as what Neo-Neocon does.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/11/09/yons-iconic-photo-more-congressional-shenanigans/#comment-46094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Laura forgot to take her morning meditation it seems. Usually she does her opposition with far more reason. I suppose Congress has become a reliable source to back, given the hostility towards BUsh. There has to be something that lets people delude themselves into thinking that they are working as part of an &quot;American&quot; team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura forgot to take her morning meditation it seems. Usually she does her opposition with far more reason. I suppose Congress has become a reliable source to back, given the hostility towards BUsh. There has to be something that lets people delude themselves into thinking that they are working as part of an &#8220;American&#8221; team.</p>
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