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		By: mary		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/06/16/the-eyes-have-it-atta-and-company/#comment-36609</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Actually, only a few people are capable of killing. Whether in the heat or through the far harder pre-planned path. This is due to certain societal or tribal behavioral conditionings.&lt;/i&gt;

Only a few people are capable of committing a murder (unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought), but, at least in the past, many people were capable of killing in self defense or warfare. If they weren&#039;t, we could never have found enough soldiers to man the armies that fought in the massive battles of WWII.

Bill Whittle did a better job than I did of describing our attitudes towards violence and the people who are capable of dealing with it in his &#039;Tribes&#039; essay, where he distinguishes between the people who can deal with violence in a protective way (calling them sheepdogs) and the people who can deal with violence, but who use it in a destructive way (calling them wolves).

 According to Whittle&#039;s quote from a soldier, most people are &quot;kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation.&quot;

Societal conditioning is part of our attitude towards violence or killing. I think most western societies have changed a lot since WWII. I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the influence of the political left, our fears of our own God-like power of destruction in the nuclear age or what, but it&#039;s not clear that some western socieites are capable of producing a large number of people who are capable of dealing with violence in a protective way, even under extreme provocation. America is in better shape than most, but the greatest generation may have been the last of its kind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actually, only a few people are capable of killing. Whether in the heat or through the far harder pre-planned path. This is due to certain societal or tribal behavioral conditionings.</i></p>
<p>Only a few people are capable of committing a murder (unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought), but, at least in the past, many people were capable of killing in self defense or warfare. If they weren&#8217;t, we could never have found enough soldiers to man the armies that fought in the massive battles of WWII.</p>
<p>Bill Whittle did a better job than I did of describing our attitudes towards violence and the people who are capable of dealing with it in his &#8216;Tribes&#8217; essay, where he distinguishes between the people who can deal with violence in a protective way (calling them sheepdogs) and the people who can deal with violence, but who use it in a destructive way (calling them wolves).</p>
<p> According to Whittle&#8217;s quote from a soldier, most people are &#8220;kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Societal conditioning is part of our attitude towards violence or killing. I think most western societies have changed a lot since WWII. I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s the influence of the political left, our fears of our own God-like power of destruction in the nuclear age or what, but it&#8217;s not clear that some western socieites are capable of producing a large number of people who are capable of dealing with violence in a protective way, even under extreme provocation. America is in better shape than most, but the greatest generation may have been the last of its kind.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 04:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, only a few people are capable of killing. Whether in the heat or through the far harder pre-planned path. This is due to certain societal or tribal behavioral conditionings. Depending on the culture and the strength of the conditioning, a person can indeed be made incapable of murder or killing.

It just tends to never be 100%. Yet the exception does not prove the rule. I am of course limiting killing to killing humans only. Hunting animals is not the same, just as eating animal flesh is not the same as eating human flesh.

As for the photo issue. Photographs never really capture the true soul of a person, for that you must see them in person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, only a few people are capable of killing. Whether in the heat or through the far harder pre-planned path. This is due to certain societal or tribal behavioral conditionings. Depending on the culture and the strength of the conditioning, a person can indeed be made incapable of murder or killing.</p>
<p>It just tends to never be 100%. Yet the exception does not prove the rule. I am of course limiting killing to killing humans only. Hunting animals is not the same, just as eating animal flesh is not the same as eating human flesh.</p>
<p>As for the photo issue. Photographs never really capture the true soul of a person, for that you must see them in person.</p>
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		By: dustoffmom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yikes!  Neo...the trolls are back in full strength!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!  Neo&#8230;the trolls are back in full strength!</p>
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		By: mary		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/06/16/the-eyes-have-it-atta-and-company/#comment-36584</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re all capable of killing. How many cows have died so that omnivores might live, how many mice and bugs have died so that vegetarians can enjoy whole-wheat bread? We&#039;re at the top of the food chain, we&#039;ve all got blood on our hands. 

Most killing is done for food or self defense, It&#039;s part of what makes us human. Classifying this as a qualilty that belongs to &#039;others&#039;, a tendency that belongs only to a subset of people doesn&#039;t really help us understand it in murderers or in ordinary people. 

In the name of self-defense, we&#039;re all capable of inflicting mortal violence - something we should remember when we come in contact with the dead-eyed Attas of the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re all capable of killing. How many cows have died so that omnivores might live, how many mice and bugs have died so that vegetarians can enjoy whole-wheat bread? We&#8217;re at the top of the food chain, we&#8217;ve all got blood on our hands. </p>
<p>Most killing is done for food or self defense, It&#8217;s part of what makes us human. Classifying this as a qualilty that belongs to &#8216;others&#8217;, a tendency that belongs only to a subset of people doesn&#8217;t really help us understand it in murderers or in ordinary people. </p>
<p>In the name of self-defense, we&#8217;re all capable of inflicting mortal violence &#8211; something we should remember when we come in contact with the dead-eyed Attas of the world.</p>
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		By: harry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 17:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Exactly, Kungfu. These wing-nuts are getting really weird.

Hey, have you heard the latest about how Bushco was responsible for blowing up the WTC and hurricane Katrina?

Wait, there&#039;s more....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Kungfu. These wing-nuts are getting really weird.</p>
<p>Hey, have you heard the latest about how Bushco was responsible for blowing up the WTC and hurricane Katrina?</p>
<p>Wait, there&#8217;s more&#8230;.</p>
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		By: kungfu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kungfu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Parapsychology.  Call Mulder and Scully.  Better yet, call the Ghostbusters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parapsychology.  Call Mulder and Scully.  Better yet, call the Ghostbusters.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2007/06/16/the-eyes-have-it-atta-and-company/#comment-36568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 07:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi, Neo,

Striking. Everyone reacted to Atta&#039;s shark eyes.

I saw Michael Moore at the RNC in NYC in 2004. He was leaving the arena after sitting in the press box for just 20 minutes (he&#039;d file a story that night claiming he&#039;d mingled on the convention floor with hoi polloi and quoting several fabricated conversations he never, in fact, had). 

Moore was surrounded by an entourage of some twenty security men with those little white earpieces. He was bloated, unkempt, wearing worn, sagging jeans. But what struck me most was his eyes: they were dead-dark, sick: he looked like a man who&#039;d sold his soul. Not sad, just ... empty. 

I was shocked. Can&#039;t stand him, but that glimpse of him (he passed within four feet of me) made my hair rise up on the back of my neck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Neo,</p>
<p>Striking. Everyone reacted to Atta&#8217;s shark eyes.</p>
<p>I saw Michael Moore at the RNC in NYC in 2004. He was leaving the arena after sitting in the press box for just 20 minutes (he&#8217;d file a story that night claiming he&#8217;d mingled on the convention floor with hoi polloi and quoting several fabricated conversations he never, in fact, had). </p>
<p>Moore was surrounded by an entourage of some twenty security men with those little white earpieces. He was bloated, unkempt, wearing worn, sagging jeans. But what struck me most was his eyes: they were dead-dark, sick: he looked like a man who&#8217;d sold his soul. Not sad, just &#8230; empty. </p>
<p>I was shocked. Can&#8217;t stand him, but that glimpse of him (he passed within four feet of me) made my hair rise up on the back of my neck.</p>
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		By: Next Stop Lauderdale		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Next Stop Lauderdale]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The one I liked if you remeber is Atta&#039;s father saying that his son didn&#039;t commit the crime and he had received a phone call from him after 911. If so probably from Hell complaining about the haggard virgins and he is in a place he belongs.       .............steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one I liked if you remeber is Atta&#8217;s father saying that his son didn&#8217;t commit the crime and he had received a phone call from him after 911. If so probably from Hell complaining about the haggard virgins and he is in a place he belongs.       &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.steve</p>
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		By: dustoffmom		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dustoffmom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 17:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve experienced these eyes during my many travels...most recently from a mid-aged Frenchman when he realized I was an American.  Does that mean the French are terrorists or that this man was anti American?  I&#039;d say likely the latter.  However, while the dead stare is surely not a pure indication of potential violence, like Neo and her references I have to say it seems a preponderance of these types of folks seem to have it.  And no where I don&#039;t think has it been proposed that it is a strictly Muslim look!  Heavens...you all read much into nothing!  I do agree that I have seen this &#039;look&#039;....and was chilled by it.  It&#039;s a &quot;turn around and go the other way right now&quot; sort of look that one simply must get away from.  But sometimes, we can&#039;t.  And sometimes we have to be somewhat un-PC and admit that blue-eyed, white blonds from Sweden were not the hijackers......young Arab men were.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve experienced these eyes during my many travels&#8230;most recently from a mid-aged Frenchman when he realized I was an American.  Does that mean the French are terrorists or that this man was anti American?  I&#8217;d say likely the latter.  However, while the dead stare is surely not a pure indication of potential violence, like Neo and her references I have to say it seems a preponderance of these types of folks seem to have it.  And no where I don&#8217;t think has it been proposed that it is a strictly Muslim look!  Heavens&#8230;you all read much into nothing!  I do agree that I have seen this &#8216;look&#8217;&#8230;.and was chilled by it.  It&#8217;s a &#8220;turn around and go the other way right now&#8221; sort of look that one simply must get away from.  But sometimes, we can&#8217;t.  And sometimes we have to be somewhat un-PC and admit that blue-eyed, white blonds from Sweden were not the hijackers&#8230;&#8230;young Arab men were.</p>
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		By: harry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Elrond,

Please point to where it was suggested that the &quot;dead eyed, predator look&quot; was a feature found solely in Muslims. Tell us where you got that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elrond,</p>
<p>Please point to where it was suggested that the &#8220;dead eyed, predator look&#8221; was a feature found solely in Muslims. Tell us where you got that.</p>
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