Comments on: Insider assassinations in the third world https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/ A blog about political change, among other things Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:55:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Baljit Singh https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-44803 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:12:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-44803 Nice post above. Pity that there is not a single grain of truth to any of it.

It’s quite typical propaganda of extremist diaspora Sikhs, willing to engage in elaborate fabrications and conspiracist nonsense just so that people who don’t know or understand the complex dynamics of Sikh history in India can be hoodwinked into joining their fold.

Unfortunately, most diaspora Sikhs are quite fanatic. They got booted out of India by their own co-religionists because most Sikhs in India got sick and tired of their nonsense. Of course, it is true that the Harimandir Sahib was desecrated by the Congress party. the Sikh fanatics had a lot of it coming. They perverted the largely peaceful Sikh community to support their nefarious agenda. A classic example of this is the Sikh terrorist leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, a “martyr” in they eyes of the crazy diaspora Sikhs. I suggest that you read

From Bhindranwale to Bin Laden: The Rise of Religious Violence

http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1024&context=gis

as well as

“Punjab, Knights of Falsehood”, by Kanwar Pal Singh Gill (the Sikh lawman who quelled the fanatic Sikh terrorist uprising in Punjab)

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/publication/nightsoffalsehood/index.html

]]> By: Sameer Bhagwat https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-34578 Tue, 01 May 2007 10:07:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-34578 The bombing of the Air India flights was a coordinated effort between three trading partners (USA, India, Canada) and their intelligence agencies (CIA, RAW, CSIS). The informants may have been purchased by these agencies, and dressed in the Sikh uniform. The dangers of the Sikh uniform and Sikh name is that intruders, or spies, can also adopt it and infiltrate the community. Now, when it is coming out 20 years later that “L Singh” bought the ticket for Air India Flight 182, and that other “Sikhs” were involved, it is very easy for us Canadians to assume that it was genuine Sikhs who were complicit in this act. It is not unlikely that some of the individuals who carried out the bombing wore a turban and kept unshorn hair, but the planning and funding was not done by any Sikh organization, nor by any individual Sikh. In fact, it was done by the Indian government. The Indian government attacked the Golden Temple in June 1984, and sponsored riots against Sikhs in November. These were all part of their attempts to destroy the movement by Sikhs for fair judicial process, human rights, and equality in Punjab. The Sikhs were becoming too powerful, too influential, and the public of the world was supporting them because like the Monks of Tibet – they were an oppressed people demanding their rights, and Indira Gandhi was a self-absorbed tyrant. In order to erase all traces of the Sikh movement against this oppression, the Indian government took the above actions. They do not care about “collateral damage” or the loss of life whether those were Canadian or Indian nationals. They knew that the Air India tragedy would target the families of 329 people, the media and politicians of many countries, and the citizens around the world against the Sikhs and their struggle. The Indian government knew that by putting the blame for a horrendous disaster on innocent Sikhs by infiltrating the community and paying off a few individuals to pose as “militants,” the Sikh community would be set back 100 years in their development and success around the world. With the black cloud of Air India hanging over the Sikhs of Canada, it has been extremely difficult for them to ask for Punjab to be restored to its pre-1947 state, with a state-level government and a capital city of its own. The Indian government was responsible for this tragedy. CSIS erased 190 or 250 wire taps for no other reason. Witnesses and news are coming about now, and haven’t for 20 years, for the same reason. CSIS has worked very hard to put this partnership under the rug and pin Malik and Bagri for this crime, but they were not successful and instead their incompetency has been uncovered. However, with time not only will it show that they were incompetent, but actually complicit in the murder of 329 people on this flight and 2 people at Narita Airpot in Japan. This was not the act of any Sikh organization, but the organized operation of Indian intelligence to destroy a political opposition. The bombing of the Air India flights was a coordinated effort between three trading partners (USA, India, Canada) and their intelligence agencies (CIA, RAW, CSIS). The informants may have been purchased by these agencies, and dressed in the Sikh uniform. The dangers of the Sikh uniform and Sikh name is that intruders, or spies, can also adopt it and infiltrate the community. Now, when it is coming out 20 years later that “L Singh” bought the ticket for Air India Flight 182, and that other “Sikhs” were involved, it is very easy for us Canadians to assume that it was genuine Sikhs who were complicit in this act. It is not unlikely that some of the individuals who carried out the bombing wore a turban and kept unshorn hair, but the planning and funding was not done by any Sikh organization, nor by any individual Sikh. In fact, it was done by the Indian government. The Indian government attacked the Golden Temple in June 1984, and sponsored riots against Sikhs in November. These were all part of their attempts to destroy the movement by Sikhs for fair judicial process, human rights, and equality in Punjab. The Sikhs were becoming too powerful, too influential, and the public of the world was supporting them because like the Monks of Tibet – they were an oppressed people demanding their rights, and Indira Gandhi was a self-absorbed tyrant. In order to erase all traces of the Sikh movement against this oppression, the Indian government took the above actions. They do not care about “collateral damage” or the loss of life whether those were Canadian or Indian nationals. They knew that the Air India tragedy would target the families of 329 people, the media and politicians of many countries, and the citizens around the world against the Sikhs and their struggle. The Indian government knew that by putting the blame for a horrendous disaster on innocent Sikhs by infiltrating the community and paying off a few individuals to pose as “militants,” the Sikh community would be set back 100 years in their development and success around the world. With the black cloud of Air India hanging over the Sikhs of Canada, it has been extremely difficult for them to ask for Punjab to be restored to its pre-1947 state, with a state-level government and a capital city of its own. The Indian government was responsible for this tragedy. CSIS erased 190 or 250 wire taps for no other reason. Witnesses and news are coming about now, and haven’t for 20 years, for the same reason. CSIS has worked very hard to put this partnership under the rug and pin Malik and Bagri for this crime, but they were not successful and instead their incompetency has been uncovered. However, with time not only will it show that they were incompetent, but actually complicit in the murder of 329 people on this flight and 2 people at Narita Airpot in Japan. This was not the act of any Sikh organization, but the organized operation of Indian intelligence to destroy a political opposition.

]]> By: Brian H https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-34133 Mon, 23 Apr 2007 09:26:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-34133 Just a wee correction: despite endless MSM repetitions, the bombing was NOT in the Green Zone. The Iraqi Parliament security brief had been turned over to the IA last July, and the Green Zone boundary redrawn to exclude it.

But it sounds so much direr to say “Green Zone bombing”, doesn’t it? I wonder who benefits from that … ???

]]> By: Lee https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33915 Fri, 20 Apr 2007 05:26:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33915 Sorry, teq, did you say something?

]]> By: tequilamockingbird https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33899 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:56:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33899 Wow, I just checked in after a couple of hours — how the mighty have fallen — or I guess that’s one way of putting it.

There’s not much point in talking to you guys anymore, since your neocon star has risen and fallen.

Byyyyyyy…. can you neocons feel the echo?

]]> By: tequilamockingbird https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33893 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:47:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33893 Neo: Too bad you jumped the liberal ship for this bunch of clowns and losers. The appellation “neocon” is going to be a terrible anchor in years to come when W is proven by history to be the world’s worst president.

How do you define a neoconservative who’s been mugged by reality? You’d better come up with a definition soon if you don’t want to be associated forever with these bozos.

Thank God Bush has only two more years. His successor has a horrible legacy of damage to repair.

]]> By: tequilamockingbird https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33892 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:32:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33892 Of course, if my opinions had not been dissenting, my multiple posts (which wouldn’t have prompted the attention of any ISP that ever existed anywhere) wouldn’t have been an issue in the first place.

Oh, well: You chided me for what I thought was an undeserved reason — which I thought and still think was only because I’m expressing an opinion contrary to the majority on here — but I’m still here. So thank you for your forbearance. Let’s agree to disagree.

]]> By: tequilamockingbird https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33891 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:19:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33891 I’ve just had a revelation. Two or three years ago, when I was participating in this blog because I was trying to understand the thinking of participants, however warped it may be, this blog was flooded by neocons trumpeting their ascendancy — a dissenting opinion was always answered within 15 minutes. Now, of course, they’ve all fled, so where my “inflammatory” posts were responded to by multiple readers within minutes, it now waits (for hours?) until the old faithfuls log on to support their position. It used to be rapid-fire because there were a lot of neocons basking in their ascendancy; now it’s just the tired old true believers, and they’re there when they’re there, not necessarily soon.

So, Neo, am I going to be accused of rapid-fire spamming at some point in the future when I post three messages in three weeks? It’s all relative, I guess.

]]> By: tequilamockingbird https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33887 Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:23:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33887 Well, it’s April 20, after another day of horror and bloodbath in Iraq, and I think a pronouncement on the war is about due and no longer premature: The war is over, the neocons lost, and they dragged the rest of the American people with them.

The bad guys can strike at will, in the heart of the Green Zone or anywhere on the streets. The supply of suicide bombers appears unlimited, fueled by the presence of the hated occupiers.

The saddest part is that every one of those 3,000-plus lives — it’s just a vague, abstract number now; I no longer try to keep count — was spent in vain. Painful as it is to acknowledge, those lives were lost for the political beliefs and objectives of Bush and his advisers. The waging of this war was a mistake of catastrophic proportions — probably the worst mistake in US history, and certainly the worst military mistake since the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

It never needed to happen; it never should have happened. The neocons who bayed for war — and cherrypicked information that supported their cause while ignoring or covering up information to the contrary — have those Americans’ blood on their hands.

There’s only one sensible course of action: Get the hell out of Dodge (declare victory if you must), and then deal with the consequences.

Because the consequences are likely to be extremely severe. The neocons have pulled this shitstorm down on top of all of us, and we’re going to be stuck with it for — how long? A generation; maybe more. Certainly nothing of true value will be accomplished while Bush is in the White House. He has no international allies (other than a few sycophants — Tony, are you there?) — and his support among Republicans has seemed to hit a stone floor among supporters (many of whom number contributors to this blog) who would support him no matter what.

(Just as a sideline, isn’t that a kind of psycopathy? If 36% support a manifestly failed president, how many of those supporters think it their patriotic duty to support the president no matter what? I think the number of people like that might be frighteningly hign.)

If you have replies, address them to the ether; I’m no longer interested in the irrelevant rantings of Ymarksar and his ilk.

]]> By: harry https://thenewneo.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33666 Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:23:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/12/insider-assassinations-in-the-third-world/#comment-33666 “But we don’t bother with the red tape – we just deport our own citizens to countries where others can torture them.”

Send me a post card now and then.

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