You forgot how the Kiwi’s stole the land from the Maori’s too.

The Palestinian Arabs decided they wanted their own state. Well and good. Land use in PA territory is controlled by PA law, just as land use in Mexico is controlled by Mexican law. That seems to be a problem for you.

Sure, if the US and Mexico were one country, then I suppose I could complain about Mexican land restrictions. But they’re not, just like Israel and the Palestinians. They wanted their own state, they got it. They can pass any laws they please. So can the Israelis.

Before the first intifada, 300,000 Palestinians were working in Israel, and most of the rest were making or growing things to sell to the Israelis. The Palestinian economy was booming. Then they decided they’d rather kill Jews than engage in productive behavior.

And what did those pesky Jews do? They refused to just die! They actually fought back! (That must really upset you, justaguy, Jews who don’t know that their role in history is to be the passive victims, ever suffering, never responding.) They said, no, fellows, if you want to kill us, you can’t come in here and work. We won’t buy your produce, either. The nerve of them sneaky Jews!

Even when the Palestinians were given economic resorces, like the greenhouses in Gaza, they preferred destruction to production, violence to peace, death to life. And now they’re starving? What a surprise!

All the Palestinians have to do to end “Israeli military rule” is stop killing Jews. That’s it. They do that, and the Israelis are gone. The next night. Are the Palestinians going to do that, give up the dream of killing all the Jews, driving them into the sea? Not on their lives. So be it.

You talk about “the territory being stolen in the occupied territories.” I assume you must live in Antarctica, because as far as I know, there’s no inhabited place on Earth that hasn’t been conquered by its current owners from somebody else.

I live in California. The US took it from Mexico, who took it from Spain, who took it from the Indians, who took it from the mammoths and sabre-tooth tigers. I’m sure that wherever you live has a similar history. But of all the places on Earth, the only place that bothers you is Israel. (Just coincidence that it’s the one place on Earth that’s run by those sneaky Heebs, right?)

Tell me I’m wrong, justaguy, show me that you’re a fearless advocate for a Basque state, a Kurdish state, an independent Tibet, South Molocca, free Tamils, free Azeris, free Nagorno-Karabachians, free Quebecers, etc., etc., etc. Then I’ll beleive your concern for the Palestinians is something other than outright anti-Semitism.

Justaguy, are you kidding me? We just had the Scoop discussion a few weeks ago. Scoop is staffed by a bunch of 9/11 Truthers. They’re conspiracy theorists. Don’t you remember?

Since you don’t remember that, I have to assume that you’ve never heard of the concept of pan-Islamism, the idea that Sunnis and Shi’ites should join together. This concept has been around for, like, a century, but the news probably never got around to you.

If you only read Scoop, I’m sure that you also don’t know that terrorism is a multi-million dollar underground economy managed by ‘peaceful’ groups like the Muslim Brotherhood. Like most members of underground organizations, terrorist Shi’ites and Sunnis are willing to work together if there’s a payoff, like the Gottis and the Gambinos. When there’s no payoff, they fight.

Terrorism is a thriving, multiculti business. Of course the Sunnis work with the Shi’ites – they also work with African terror groups, European groups, etc., and they all store their money in offshore banking accounts. This is common knowledge, but again, I’m sure it’s news to you.

I just had a look and can’t see anything that qualifies as a conspiracy theory. You do come out with some doozies, Mary.

As one of very few people that take notice of and converse with Yma, Mary, I’d be a bit selective about who you are suggesting is a conspiracy theorist.

Good one.

Better get back in your little panic room, Mary.

It might seem like one to you(cocktail party), where you can score points by conversing with the upper ton, but that’s a rather frivolous use of time for entertainment purposes.

it is about your use of your time for entertainment purposes, steve. Not about what I choose to do with mine. You were talking about yourself, not about what other people were doing at Neo.

While not everything is about you steve, this certainly is by your own admission.

No, which is why those who are killing so many innocent Afghani and Iraqi civilians should not get any help from people like you. What say you?

LOL. I’d guess that the latest conspiracy theories from Scoop.co.nz are coming through now. Better adjust your tinfoil hat.