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		By: Yehudit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26048</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 06:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

I traveled frequently to NYC in the late 80s, then didn&#039;t return for 10 years, then moved here in 2002. There is a HUGE difference between then and now. HUGE.

And the South Bronx is rebounding. it&#039;s full of the young bohos who got priced out of Williamsburg.

NYC certainly isn&#039;t paved with gold, but it&#039;s safe and livable (except for the outrageous rents).

Yes, the brunch was a lot of fun. 4 hours of girl talk and recovering liberals support group. :-)
Ditto on the road trips!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I traveled frequently to NYC in the late 80s, then didn&#8217;t return for 10 years, then moved here in 2002. There is a HUGE difference between then and now. HUGE.</p>
<p>And the South Bronx is rebounding. it&#8217;s full of the young bohos who got priced out of Williamsburg.</p>
<p>NYC certainly isn&#8217;t paved with gold, but it&#8217;s safe and livable (except for the outrageous rents).</p>
<p>Yes, the brunch was a lot of fun. 4 hours of girl talk and recovering liberals support group. 🙂<br />
Ditto on the road trips!</p>
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		By: maryatexitzero		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26035</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 21:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was great to get together for a lib/hawk brunch yesterday! Anytime you get the travelling bug, let us know.

On the walk home I was amazed. That neighborhood, like most of the city, has really improved. I used to work near Broadway during the dark ages of the early &#039;80&#039;s before Giuliani cleaned the whole place up. I returned to the area in the late &#039;90&#039;s and felt like a stranger in a strange land. No squeegee guys, no porn on 42nd street, polite cabbies. Like Proust with his  madeleines, if it wasn&#039;t for the old familiar odors in the subways, I would have been lost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was great to get together for a lib/hawk brunch yesterday! Anytime you get the travelling bug, let us know.</p>
<p>On the walk home I was amazed. That neighborhood, like most of the city, has really improved. I used to work near Broadway during the dark ages of the early &#8217;80&#8217;s before Giuliani cleaned the whole place up. I returned to the area in the late &#8217;90&#8217;s and felt like a stranger in a strange land. No squeegee guys, no porn on 42nd street, polite cabbies. Like Proust with his  madeleines, if it wasn&#8217;t for the old familiar odors in the subways, I would have been lost.</p>
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		By: askmom		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26047</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 10:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I lived in Maine and worked in The City, it seemed so crowded and hard to navigate.  Then I moved to Chicago and still worked in The City, and it seemed not so crowded anymore.  Thus does Maine make small towners of us, I suppose.  And the search for a really good bagel, though becoming more of a challenge each year, gives meaning to our lives :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I lived in Maine and worked in The City, it seemed so crowded and hard to navigate.  Then I moved to Chicago and still worked in The City, and it seemed not so crowded anymore.  Thus does Maine make small towners of us, I suppose.  And the search for a really good bagel, though becoming more of a challenge each year, gives meaning to our lives 🙂</p>
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		By: Holmes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Holmes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 07:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s interesting that the trolls never comment on these threads.  To do so would almost acknowledge Neo&#039;s humanity, I think.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that the trolls never comment on these threads.  To do so would almost acknowledge Neo&#8217;s humanity, I think.</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26045</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 03:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TmjUtah: my memories exactly of the California coast. I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley in the 60s. My grandparents would take a holiday to cabins near Oceanside. We would take Hwy 1. I remember an old gas station along the way, of two pumps, and red coke machine dispensing glass bottles. Classic Americana long gone. I remember Oceanside as sleepy in the mid-sixties, but then that through the eyes of a child.

Neo: I was stationed at Governor&#039;s Island in 1974 and would take the USCGC ferry into Manhattan. Then catch those oh-so-dangerous subways to get around. I remember how Broadway and Times Square were sadness in lights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TmjUtah: my memories exactly of the California coast. I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley in the 60s. My grandparents would take a holiday to cabins near Oceanside. We would take Hwy 1. I remember an old gas station along the way, of two pumps, and red coke machine dispensing glass bottles. Classic Americana long gone. I remember Oceanside as sleepy in the mid-sixties, but then that through the eyes of a child.</p>
<p>Neo: I was stationed at Governor&#8217;s Island in 1974 and would take the USCGC ferry into Manhattan. Then catch those oh-so-dangerous subways to get around. I remember how Broadway and Times Square were sadness in lights.</p>
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		By: Mike Sierra		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Sierra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 19:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also grew up in NYC and moved to Boston, so I can relate.  (My occasional bouts of homesickness are satisfied by &lt;A HREF=&quot;HTTP://overheardinnewyork.com&quot;&gt; overheardinnewyork.com&lt;/A&gt;.) For years on end I didn&#039;t have any reason to return. When I finally did, I visited my old neighborhood and was also struck by the Soylent Green-like mass of people.  I had to pinch myself and tell me it was mostly a matter of perception, that I really &lt;I&gt;did&lt;/I&gt; grow up this way!

This was the late 90&#039;s, and everyone was talking about how much the city had improved under Giuliani. There was a huge amount of media attention on this point. Times Square was all cleaned up, crime was way down, and there were no more obvious signs of panhandlers, pimps, whores, crackheads, or hustlers.  No street was left unstrolled at night.  Even the South Bronx had rebounded.  If you rode the subway, you&#039;d never see any graffiti, spot a bit of trash, or smell a whiff of urine.  More than that, there was positive talk of a &quot;new civility.&quot;

Reading these accounts, I came away with the image of marble-paved streets.  I imagined men in tophats making grand gestures and vying with each other, throwing their coats to the ground to help a lady cross a puddle.  So it was out of a sense of urgency that returned to see what was going on. I thought the city I knew might have been gone forever!  It didn&#039;t take long -- maybe a matter of minutes -- for me to arrive at a judgement: &lt;I&gt;false alarm!&lt;/I&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also grew up in NYC and moved to Boston, so I can relate.  (My occasional bouts of homesickness are satisfied by <a HREF="HTTP://overheardinnewyork.com"> overheardinnewyork.com</a>.) For years on end I didn&#8217;t have any reason to return. When I finally did, I visited my old neighborhood and was also struck by the Soylent Green-like mass of people.  I had to pinch myself and tell me it was mostly a matter of perception, that I really <i>did</i> grow up this way!</p>
<p>This was the late 90&#8217;s, and everyone was talking about how much the city had improved under Giuliani. There was a huge amount of media attention on this point. Times Square was all cleaned up, crime was way down, and there were no more obvious signs of panhandlers, pimps, whores, crackheads, or hustlers.  No street was left unstrolled at night.  Even the South Bronx had rebounded.  If you rode the subway, you&#8217;d never see any graffiti, spot a bit of trash, or smell a whiff of urine.  More than that, there was positive talk of a &#8220;new civility.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reading these accounts, I came away with the image of marble-paved streets.  I imagined men in tophats making grand gestures and vying with each other, throwing their coats to the ground to help a lady cross a puddle.  So it was out of a sense of urgency that returned to see what was going on. I thought the city I knew might have been gone forever!  It didn&#8217;t take long &#8212; maybe a matter of minutes &#8212; for me to arrive at a judgement: <i>false alarm!</i></p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26043</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 11:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;d think someone would figure out a way to put cell repeaters into the subways...  Apparently they manage to do so in Sweden.  Can you imagine the number of people that would switch to the first carrier that got antennae into the subways?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;d think someone would figure out a way to put cell repeaters into the subways&#8230;  Apparently they manage to do so in Sweden.  Can you imagine the number of people that would switch to the first carrier that got antennae into the subways?</p>
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		By: Joe Gelman		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26042</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 09:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great post, especially since I was in NYC a little over a week ago and was able to relate to the observations. Simply a great city...to visit and observe. I&#039;ll leave it to others to live there.
Joe]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post, especially since I was in NYC a little over a week ago and was able to relate to the observations. Simply a great city&#8230;to visit and observe. I&#8217;ll leave it to others to live there.<br />
Joe</p>
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		By: Cappy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26041</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 08:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I visited for a class around Thanksgiving, 2004.  The airline lost my luggage.  The people were very friendly, I found getting around Manhattan pretty easy, and at a lot cheaper than in the Midwest.  It was a good experience.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I visited for a class around Thanksgiving, 2004.  The airline lost my luggage.  The people were very friendly, I found getting around Manhattan pretty easy, and at a lot cheaper than in the Midwest.  It was a good experience.</p>
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		By: camojack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/10/07/subways-token/#comment-26040</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2006 07:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah, the &quot;Big Apple&quot;...rotten to the core. Well, not &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; bad, I guess. I haven&#039;t been there for a few years, myself...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the &#8220;Big Apple&#8221;&#8230;rotten to the core. Well, not <i>that</i> bad, I guess. I haven&#8217;t been there for a few years, myself&#8230;</p>
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