Are you suggesting communists are tyrannical? That’s not very multi-cultural 😛

So, they dropped any pretence pf caring about ‘the workers’ and just tried to get power by fighting for those who already had it. Not complicated. Not original.

If that is not the case, please describe for me goalpost #1 and goalpost #2.

TMurphy: It seems you ignore that most forms of free speech are insulting to radical Islam. Remember the Pope?
Note that one Imam called insults aggression, to which violence is a proper response. Self-defense of course.
There are other jihadists, other than OBL, who have stated that the ultimate goal is the conversion of the West to Islam.

Pulling one quote from OBL proves nothing about the ultimate goal of radical Islam. Even “moderates”, by poll in Britain, and by statement here, Ibrihim Hooper for example, have acknowledged that they would like to see sharia as the system of law of the nation in which they live. I bet if Christians said something about biblical law as law of the land, you would be screaming bloody murder.

Bush, Cheney, Rove, et. al., are virtuous men with superior intellects, no political motivations, no interest in spin, sound bites or increasing their power base. They are only interested in saving America from terrorists and if everyone would just shut up and do what they say and let them do whatever they want, everything would be fine.

Democrats, on the other hand, are the evil “other,” waiting in the wings, sniping away at these modern-day saints, wating for the opportunity to take power, so they can regulate toilet flows, force Americans to become homosexuals, and practice witchcraft before allowing the islamofascist takeover.

Correct?

Look, to me Beren is clearly saying that when the President talks of war, the press and the congress have no business doing anything but supporting his decision. No fair talking about mountains, bad weather or past experiences in Afghanistan, no fair bringing up other foreign policy chllenges on the horizon, because that sort of talk would “discourage” the public.

I’m simply saying I find that point of view to be appalling. And here I am getting called a “stupid idiot” because of it.

In Beren’s comments I get a sense of frustration with how the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, are proceeding.

Bush has had a full term and a half with his party in control of both houses of congress and now the Supreme Court.

Beren should know that any problems or setbacks we are experiencing in Iraq, Afghanistan, or the GWOT are not due to a discouraged public, conniving Democrats, or a hostile press. Full responsibility for these wars lie ultimately with Donald Rumsfeld and his boss.

I notice a disturbing pattern of antagonism towards Muslims. Propagandists share a large part of the blame for this. Propagandists who seek to protect their favorite policy: US support of Israel. I can list examples if anyone is interested. Recently we had one of the most dramatic examples, ABC ran “The path to 9/11” which contained a fabricated fatwa quote that purported to say that bin Laden was attacking us “until America converts to Islam”. This is a lie, there is no such demand and never has been. It is fabricated to hide the fact of what the real motives were for the 9/11 attacks. There has been a pattern of suppression and lies in order to hide the real motives for the 9/11 attacks. Bin Laden has been explicate, “the people of Islam had suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by the Zionist-Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the extent that the Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth as loot in the hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in Palestine and Iraq.” He has not said “until American converts to Islam”, that is not what this is about. He has said until what: “We swore that America wouldn’t live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel’s interest above its own people’s interest. America won’t get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel.”