I haven’t lost any sleep over the Allies’ “disproportionate response” to Nazi provocation, and I don’t think I’ll lose any over Israel’s.

And, as long as we’re talking about ‘threats to the existence’ of countries, I don’t see you losing any sleep over the devastation in Lebanon and the hundreds of thousands of refugees – at least 20 percent of their population.

I’m aghast at the terrorists for making Israel’s military actions necessary. But you know, if you elect terrorists to political office and allow terrorists to embed themselves in your society, you need to look to yourself for explanations for the destruction and carnage.

Not once in Israel’s 58-year history – with the possible exception of the very beggining of the ’48 war – has Israel’s existence ever been threatened.

No wave of suicide bombings, no rocket attacks, no Egyptian battalion carrying corroded weapons has ever been close to causing the collapse of Israeli civil, economic, or military society.

The only thing they ever threated was Israel’s pride, and its conception of itself as an invincible titan who could dispose of any threat without wincing.

It happened in ’73, in the first Intifada, in the occupation of Lebanon in ’82, and now it’s happened again.

And all the high-tech military hardware and military occupations in the world won’t restore their shattered sense of superiority, or bring them one inch closer to real peace or real security.

And, as long as we’re talking about ‘threats to the existence’ of countries, I don’t see you losing any sleep over the devestation in Lebanon and the hundreds of thousands of refugees – at least 20 percent of their population.

It’s worse than either choice, I fear. It’s the Final (for most of us) Insanity.

Try this link below,
(which concludes)
“Given the vitality of destructive but sacralized Islamic doctrines (such as dhimmitude, and jihad martyrdom) that date from the religion’s formative years, editorialists, policymakers, and theologians must avoid glib formulations and start addressing the uncomfortable realities of mainstream Islam.”

http://americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5764

Would by next tuesday work for you?

We should have started on that 30 years ago, but we didn’t. Don’t waste time pointing at the oil companies or Bush or name your favorite boogyman; we all made the bed we now got to sleep and shiver in.

Ginger, I 90% agree with you; though I think you’re wrong to dismiss Russia so rapidly. But the question I want to raise here is whether the people pulling the strings over there are crazy-dumb-nuts or crazy-smart-nuts. I gather you lean towards the first; I suspect the second.

In the end it doesn’t matter, but knowing which helps us better decide the means of execution.

What is fact is the Pakistan’s Dr. Khan has been happily selling nuclear weapons knowhow and technology to all comers for many years. What is fact is that Iran has been working on developing nuclear weapons for a decade and more. What is fact is that when the U.S.S.R. collapsed it left many thousands of Russian scientists, skilled in nuclear and biological weapons research and who had been the privileged elite, destitute and unable to feed their families. Indeed, so worried was the U.S.about this situation that part of the funding for Nunn-Lugar Nuclear Threat Reduction Programs went for small salaries for Russian scientists working at a new research facility set up by the U.S. to keep them employed. This bare-bones funding could help only the most eminent scientists, a fraction of those Russian scientists who were destitute so, there were lots of them who could peddle their knowledge for survival for their families; some are reported to have gone to both Iraq and Iran. Finally, with the collapse of the U.S.S.R. many military units were destitute as well and some were reported to have sold off their equipment to enable them buy enough food to survive. It has also been reported that Soviet accounting for nuclear materials, spread throughout the former U.S.S.R. was, shall we say, less than comprehensive and meticulous.

So, what do you think the chances of determined Islamic fanatics with unlimited cash who wanted to buy technology, scientific expertise or even weapons, might have been? This is why I don’t think such assertions are very reassuring.

It also forms a larger proportion of Israel’s population than Palestine’s… 2.1% compared to 0.7%.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled troll spew.

Oh yeah. Absolutely.

And if you act now, we’ll throw in a UN sponsored ‘cease fire’ agreement strictly enforced by stern comdemnation, complete with un-armed UN observers!

Act now and start your ‘peace process’ today!