Tatter – watch the language mate.

And please – you couldn’t bash a paper bag with a mallet you twat – simmer down tough guy….

Like WWII and the end of the Nazi Holocaust. After all, Hitler was democratically elected by the majority of the people of Germany.

I can not only bash the winners of democratic elections, I can bash the whole motherfucking country of civilians that elected them.

Just following in the footsteps of Winston Churchill and FDR, you know.

The flip side of that is that if the people of a nation democratically elect genocidal thugs to govern their nation, then the people will have to bear the consequences of their poor judgement.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F00C16F93C5F0C768CDDAC0894DD484D81&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fS%2fSciolino%2c%20Elaine

From the NY Times, so it should be acceptable to a person seeking “authoritative sources.” ‘Course, it’ll cost you….

1. Hizb’allah is a proxy of and funded by Iran. The president of Iran has been quoted as saying that “Israel should be wiped from the map.” Hizb’allah is firing thousands of rockets at Israel. Iran is actively seeking nuclear weapons. The implication is that Israel is engaged in fighting Iran (by proxy) now, and cannot wait until Iran acquires nukes. Ergo, fighting for its life.

2. “The West” embodies the principles of classical liberalism: individual freedom, property rights, democracy, the notion that the individual is more important than the state. Israel fights against those who believe in submission to an all-powerful god, submission to a stifling theology, and the notion that the state (god) is more important than the individual. Ergo, Israel is fighting (by proxy) for “The West.”

3. As for “religious tyranny”, see above, and add female circumcision, women as property, laws that dictate pretty much everything that someone does in everyday life. You are aware of the Saudi version of “Dear Abby”, an imam that advises people on “religious” matters like what kind of laundry detergent to use?

Enough evidence for you? It is for me.

Heh.

Ha-ha.

Hah-heh-hah-hah-heh-hahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhah!

“Just curious, since it has implications based upon the fact that you require evidence for 1 – 3 above.”

Actually, my ethnic/religous/nationalistic profile doesn’t have any implications at all to questions 1-3.

They are serious questions that require serious evidence.

Which, tellingly, no one has offered any as such.

They are subjective assertions, not facts.

And fairly inaccurated assertions at that.

I’m have no particular bias, Don. I’m just interested in truth and reasoned argument.

Give it a try….

Naturally. After a fabricated “attack”, a completely unrelated group in a completely different country (or are we now admitting that Hizb’allah and Hamas have the same goals- contrary to previous leftist trolls’ posts) decides to kill and kidnap Israeli soldiers and rain rockets down on Israel, plunging innocent civilians on both sides into an unwanted war.

Naturally.

What Don is really saying is that he and people like him won’t be happy just with democratization. To satisfy him, the people he like also have to win!

But that’s not how democracy works. You have to accept the results of democracy. If the side you don’t like wins in democratic elections, you have to accept it.

Democracy did come to the middle east — Gaza and West Bank had elections that the international observers certified as free and fair. But Hamas won. Oops! So Israel started economically squeezing the Occupied Territories relentlessly, holding up all transfer of funds. Predictably, Hamas retaliated.

Lebanon did have free and fair elections. But guess what, Hezbollah was part of the ruling coalition that came to power democratically. After Israeli tanks started attacking Gaza, naturally Hezbollah also reacted.

You can’t have democratic elections, and then start bashing the winners. It leads to bad things. You have to learn to accept the results of democracy, in order for it to work.