Comments on: The definition of joy, Palestinian-style

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:18:02 +0000

If Neo wants bloodthirsty, she can just post my views and rhetoric.

By: anon

anon — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:20:34 +0000

Regarding the “stupidity or malevolence?” question: I think journalists of the NYT persuasion are deeply afraid of the American people, and carefully edit anything they fear might unleash the monsters that they believe we are.

By: anon

anon — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 08:19:26 +0000

“Long live Death!” was the war cry of Franco’s Fascists. Their spirit has clearly arisen again in a different guise. The typical American academic, and especially the typical American journalist, is so incapable of abstract thought that he is unable to recognize the similarities becaue certain details are different.

By: ElMondoHummus

ElMondoHummus — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 03:22:47 +0000

Yhamir, the oppressed have a choice: They can either become the same character as the “brutal occupier”, or they can transcend them. The Palestinians are not choosing to transcend them. That is their own choice, and blaming the Israelis for making that choice is reducing the Palestinians to mere marionettes, incapable of doing anything other than respond to Israel. They are better than that; they just need to find leadership worthy of their potential.

Plus, assuming that calls for vigilance and necessary action are hardly the same as being “bloodthirsty”. Bloodthirsty is seen in the rhetoric from Nasrallah, Ahmadinejad, al Sadr… thinking that Neo comes close to that level of bile is, to be blunt, fantasy. You cannot have actually read her posts if you believe that of her.

By: Synova

Synova — Sat, 05 Aug 2006 02:47:34 +0000

Yhamir is far from persuasive. I’ve read persuasive arguments that, for instance, Lebanon can’t be blamed for allowing Hezbolla to exist. Persuasive arguments involve the communication of new information and accepting that those you are attempting to persuade are holding rational opinions.

Yhamir’s persuasion is pretty close to what “Mel Gibson” wrote:

“I really hope Israel loses- they started this war by being jews”

By: goesh

goesh — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 23:23:00 +0000

Yhamir, why do you continue to come here and read what you so stongly detest? It doesn’t make sense and you certainly are not persuading many to your side and views….I can’t help but wonder if you aren’t biting yourself or maybe cutting your arm with a razor blade?

By: Yhamir

Yhamir — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 21:28:23 +0000

Maybe to help with the empathy bit, just think Neo of how upset and brutal you became after 9/11 – and you don’t even live in New York.

In fact most of the families of those who died in New York are against the Neo-facist agenda. Go figure.

But not Neo – 9/11 affected her more deeply than those who had family and friends who died – and ever since(lol)she’s become a bloodthirsty, monolithic savage.

Just like those Palestinians!

Go figure…

By: Yhamir

Yhamir — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:31:23 +0000

“This story says a great deal, however, about how the thirst for destruction that’s become commonplace in Palestinian society has joined the homicidal and suicidal impulses so closely that the two have become almost as one.”

Yep. Thats what 50 years of living under a brutal, extremist occupation will do to you.

Try it some time….

By: Yhamir

Yhamir — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:06:27 +0000

By the way – it’s not like you can’t find scores of examples of racist, murderous comments and diatribes among Jewish extremists either.

Or even from Israeli elites…

Oh the musings of the truly indoctrinated. I feel sorry for your children, I really do….

By: Yhamir

Yhamir — Fri, 04 Aug 2006 20:01:47 +0000

I’d say it’s you who are stupid, Neo, if you think that the whole article changes the jist of what was said.

It’s the same thing with more brutal rhetoric.

I understand the need for angry, bitter people to have the enemy look as evil as possible – but it doesn’t the point at all.

This is intelligent?