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		By: Duluth Garage Door Repair		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-214885</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Gday, I was looking only at that page using my Blackberry and this appear to be somewhat weird. Guessed you&#039;d would choose to know. It is a new excellent post nevertheless, do not mess that up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gday, I was looking only at that page using my Blackberry and this appear to be somewhat weird. Guessed you&#8217;d would choose to know. It is a new excellent post nevertheless, do not mess that up.</p>
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		By: BoydontdiscussmatterswithRockh		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28936</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This blog site is hilarious.  It is so full of pro-Isreali crap.  I am an American first and foremost.  Not an isolationist. Isreal is an ally like Italy, Japan and dare I say, Germany on this board.  And even though we have nice net worth...not that that it makes ones inherent value now, does it lovers of the human race?...it didn&#039;t make me race to a neo-con conversion.  Secretly we all say, &quot;I can&#039;t live without that...and we have so much.&quot;  Such simple, holy boxes we build.  I&#039;m ready for the misinterpretation and slander.  Yet, I&#039;m one of you, in a very real, capitalist sense. 

Morris- I am from your precise planet.  Let&#039;s hope it&#039;s not a Pluto. The problem this cluster of people have with you is your calm, open discourse tends to disturb those that talk tough of war but have typically never lived in or served in war.  

And I see no difference, less the &quot;f&quot; bombs (of course our blog site host kept this post- it inflames, bolsters her position unless you take the time to really research the claims made.  Tend to remove the mask of &quot;good&quot; v &quot;evil&quot;.) between anon&#039;s post at 07.27.06 - 2:31 pm &#124; # and senescentwasp&#039;s post at 07.28.06 - 1:04 am.  Both overtly aggressive to the point of &quot;scaring&quot; the readers.  Isn&#039;t it time to attack, Daddy?

But whenever I am on a site like this I am going to pose this question and challenge to these oh, so bolsterous, aggressive American Jews:  

Yes, here is what millions of Americans don&#039;t say but really think about this American, Jewish, Israeli, Arab, Palestinian mess that will go on FOREVER.  &quot;Enjoy! the hell you truely live in. An eye for and eye ad nauseum&quot;  But most Americans are just too fightened by all the &quot;anti-Semitic&quot; conditioning going on in this country.  But sadly, it&#039;s not about Jews.  Sorry, to all my Jewish American friends.  And there are several. It&#039;s about international policy, period.  It&#039;s about our budget.  It&#039;s about our children.  It&#039;s about education.  It&#039;s about healthcare.  It&#039;s about all that makes this country great and does not drag it into the middle eastern gutter Isreal is a small part of.

People are waking up to the fact that too many American Jews are not Americans first and foremost...but  pro-Israeli regardless of the facts.  The sooner some American Jews with communication power, common sense, American priorities come forward with a &quot;What&#039;s good for Israel may be absolutely BAD, EVIL, WRONG for America.&quot; the BETTER.  And keep saying such as proud Americans to let all of us non-Jewish Americans of all sorts of race, color and creed know they really act in American interests.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog site is hilarious.  It is so full of pro-Isreali crap.  I am an American first and foremost.  Not an isolationist. Isreal is an ally like Italy, Japan and dare I say, Germany on this board.  And even though we have nice net worth&#8230;not that that it makes ones inherent value now, does it lovers of the human race?&#8230;it didn&#8217;t make me race to a neo-con conversion.  Secretly we all say, &#8220;I can&#8217;t live without that&#8230;and we have so much.&#8221;  Such simple, holy boxes we build.  I&#8217;m ready for the misinterpretation and slander.  Yet, I&#8217;m one of you, in a very real, capitalist sense. </p>
<p>Morris- I am from your precise planet.  Let&#8217;s hope it&#8217;s not a Pluto. The problem this cluster of people have with you is your calm, open discourse tends to disturb those that talk tough of war but have typically never lived in or served in war.  </p>
<p>And I see no difference, less the &#8220;f&#8221; bombs (of course our blog site host kept this post- it inflames, bolsters her position unless you take the time to really research the claims made.  Tend to remove the mask of &#8220;good&#8221; v &#8220;evil&#8221;.) between anon&#8217;s post at 07.27.06 &#8211; 2:31 pm | # and senescentwasp&#8217;s post at 07.28.06 &#8211; 1:04 am.  Both overtly aggressive to the point of &#8220;scaring&#8221; the readers.  Isn&#8217;t it time to attack, Daddy?</p>
<p>But whenever I am on a site like this I am going to pose this question and challenge to these oh, so bolsterous, aggressive American Jews:  </p>
<p>Yes, here is what millions of Americans don&#8217;t say but really think about this American, Jewish, Israeli, Arab, Palestinian mess that will go on FOREVER.  &#8220;Enjoy! the hell you truely live in. An eye for and eye ad nauseum&#8221;  But most Americans are just too fightened by all the &#8220;anti-Semitic&#8221; conditioning going on in this country.  But sadly, it&#8217;s not about Jews.  Sorry, to all my Jewish American friends.  And there are several. It&#8217;s about international policy, period.  It&#8217;s about our budget.  It&#8217;s about our children.  It&#8217;s about education.  It&#8217;s about healthcare.  It&#8217;s about all that makes this country great and does not drag it into the middle eastern gutter Isreal is a small part of.</p>
<p>People are waking up to the fact that too many American Jews are not Americans first and foremost&#8230;but  pro-Israeli regardless of the facts.  The sooner some American Jews with communication power, common sense, American priorities come forward with a &#8220;What&#8217;s good for Israel may be absolutely BAD, EVIL, WRONG for America.&#8221; the BETTER.  And keep saying such as proud Americans to let all of us non-Jewish Americans of all sorts of race, color and creed know they really act in American interests.</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: douglas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28934</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Adam:&lt;/i&gt;
But the same UN document,...
also says:


UNITED NATIONS INTERIM FORCE IN LEBANON
(UNIFIL)
Naqoura,
24 July 2006
PRESS RELEASE

[..]

There were nine other incidents of firing close to UN positions during the past 24 hours, with two positions suffering direct hits from the Israeli side. 

[..]

Four aerial bombs impacted in the
immediate vicinity of a Ghanaian position in the area of Brashit, and eleven tank rounds impacted in the immediate vicinity of a Ghanaian battalion position in the Rmaich area causing significant material damage.

Source: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/mis...unifil/ pr08.pdf&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;i&gt;

And so ???
Were there tactical reasons for the Israelis to fire in the vicinity of the UN posts?  IF this was an already recognized threat, why didn&#039;t the UN pull it&#039;s unarmed, useless observers out already?  WHat does any of this have to do with Hizbollah firing on a UN convoy, or a UN post?  Do think it at all likely that the Israelis were using ht UN post for cover?

Thanks for the link to the original document from the UN though.  At least people can&#039;t deny it happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam:<br />
But the same UN document,&#8230;<br />
also says:</p>
<p>UNITED NATIONS INTERIM FORCE IN LEBANON<br />
(UNIFIL)<br />
Naqoura,<br />
24 July 2006<br />
PRESS RELEASE</p>
<p>[..]</p>
<p>There were nine other incidents of firing close to UN positions during the past 24 hours, with two positions suffering direct hits from the Israeli side. </p>
<p>[..]</p>
<p>Four aerial bombs impacted in the<br />
immediate vicinity of a Ghanaian position in the area of Brashit, and eleven tank rounds impacted in the immediate vicinity of a Ghanaian battalion position in the Rmaich area causing significant material damage.</p>
<p>Source: <a href="http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/mis...unifil/ pr08.pdf">link</a><i></p>
<p>And so ???<br />
Were there tactical reasons for the Israelis to fire in the vicinity of the UN posts?  IF this was an already recognized threat, why didn&#8217;t the UN pull it&#8217;s unarmed, useless observers out already?  WHat does any of this have to do with Hizbollah firing on a UN convoy, or a UN post?  Do think it at all likely that the Israelis were using ht UN post for cover?</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the original document from the UN though.  At least people can&#8217;t deny it happened.</i></p>
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		By: J.H. Bowden		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28933</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nyomythus--

I find it fascinating how terrorist supporters like to mention George Washington. The idea is that one person&#039;s freedom fighter is another person&#039;s terrorist, and vice versa. 

It is basic moral equivalence taught in our schools and preached in the media and Hollywood, as if fighting for liberal democracy is the same thing as fighting for a global Caliphate, and/or fighting to liquidate the world&#039;s Jewish population. 

Discrimination -- the act of making distinctions, is a new sin. &quot;Judgmental&quot; is the word usually used to condemn this uncaring mental act.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nyomythus&#8211;</p>
<p>I find it fascinating how terrorist supporters like to mention George Washington. The idea is that one person&#8217;s freedom fighter is another person&#8217;s terrorist, and vice versa. </p>
<p>It is basic moral equivalence taught in our schools and preached in the media and Hollywood, as if fighting for liberal democracy is the same thing as fighting for a global Caliphate, and/or fighting to liquidate the world&#8217;s Jewish population. </p>
<p>Discrimination &#8212; the act of making distinctions, is a new sin. &#8220;Judgmental&#8221; is the word usually used to condemn this uncaring mental act.</p>
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		By: tequilamockingbird		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28932</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, you say:  &quot;And please, spare yourself the trouble of informing me that the situation isn&#039;t quite analogous. I know it&#039;s not. But the similarity is this: sometimes what seems like a choice is no choice at all. When dealing with certain enemies bent on destruction and conquest, how can one avoid battle? Sooner or later, the conflagration will erupt. And is it better in the end for it to erupt sooner rather than later, when the enemy is stronger and more deeply entrenched?

&quot;The punishment for taking on Hitler was war. The punishment for not taking on Hitler was war. World War&quot;.

Immediately after recognizing the inaccuracy of the analogy, you rely on it to imply that the punishment for &quot;not taking on (Hezbollah)&quot; could be &quot;World War&quot;.  

The situations are simply not parallel and the analogy is invalid.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, you say:  &#8220;And please, spare yourself the trouble of informing me that the situation isn&#8217;t quite analogous. I know it&#8217;s not. But the similarity is this: sometimes what seems like a choice is no choice at all. When dealing with certain enemies bent on destruction and conquest, how can one avoid battle? Sooner or later, the conflagration will erupt. And is it better in the end for it to erupt sooner rather than later, when the enemy is stronger and more deeply entrenched?</p>
<p>&#8220;The punishment for taking on Hitler was war. The punishment for not taking on Hitler was war. World War&#8221;.</p>
<p>Immediately after recognizing the inaccuracy of the analogy, you rely on it to imply that the punishment for &#8220;not taking on (Hezbollah)&#8221; could be &#8220;World War&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The situations are simply not parallel and the analogy is invalid.</p>
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		By: nyomythus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28931</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Poor George Washington. He must have been a fool, to stay and try to fight for change, instead of &quot;moving the hell out&quot;.&lt;/em&gt; Those are your thoughts and wishes not mine -- fighting for the ideas of human freedom is worth fighting for. No relevance what so ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Poor George Washington. He must have been a fool, to stay and try to fight for change, instead of &#8220;moving the hell out&#8221;.</em> Those are your thoughts and wishes not mine &#8212; fighting for the ideas of human freedom is worth fighting for. No relevance what so ever.</p>
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		By: Astro-zygote		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28930</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;then I&#039;m going to fight the thugs OR move the hell out of there, which is exactly what many Palestinians have done, living free lives in free nations and good people I might add.&lt;/i&gt;

Is that the same advice you&#039;d have given to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in the 1770s?

&quot;You don&#039;t like it here, Mr. Washington? Say what, you don&#039;t like taxation without representation? Well, move the hell out of here!&quot;

Poor George Washington. He must have been a fool, to stay and try to fight for change, instead of &quot;moving the hell out&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>then I&#8217;m going to fight the thugs OR move the hell out of there, which is exactly what many Palestinians have done, living free lives in free nations and good people I might add.</i></p>
<p>Is that the same advice you&#8217;d have given to George Washington and Thomas Jefferson in the 1770s?</p>
<p>&#8220;You don&#8217;t like it here, Mr. Washington? Say what, you don&#8217;t like taxation without representation? Well, move the hell out of here!&#8221;</p>
<p>Poor George Washington. He must have been a fool, to stay and try to fight for change, instead of &#8220;moving the hell out&#8221;.</p>
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		By: nyomythus		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/27/disarming-hezbollah-either-way/#comment-28929</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 06:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Morris -- if the women in my society are not getting the medical treatment they need because thugs are making it impossible to conduct any level of civility above barbarism, then I&#039;m going to fight the thugs OR move the hell out of there, which is exactly what many Palestinians have done, living free lives in free nations and good people I might add. Life isn’t fair, just ask the man who just won a million dollars and was struck by lightning. The fact that women are the weaker of the two genders isn’t fair, otherwise they should be the ones kicking thug ass – mustering their resources to get the hell out of there. It’s like Hurricane Katrina – get off your sorry ass and get the hell out of the way, any where, but out of the way. It was not ‘Hurricane Bush’ up in the clouds whooshing the hot moist air around into cyclones.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morris &#8212; if the women in my society are not getting the medical treatment they need because thugs are making it impossible to conduct any level of civility above barbarism, then I&#8217;m going to fight the thugs OR move the hell out of there, which is exactly what many Palestinians have done, living free lives in free nations and good people I might add. Life isn’t fair, just ask the man who just won a million dollars and was struck by lightning. The fact that women are the weaker of the two genders isn’t fair, otherwise they should be the ones kicking thug ass – mustering their resources to get the hell out of there. It’s like Hurricane Katrina – get off your sorry ass and get the hell out of the way, any where, but out of the way. It was not ‘Hurricane Bush’ up in the clouds whooshing the hot moist air around into cyclones.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar,

Castro would use force to keep children and other civilians in Cuba. Just like Hez uses force to keep Lebanese in the combat zone.

Morris,

Abuses? Since when is being delayed at a checkpoint an abuse? Perhaps if Palistinians stop blowing themselves up among the Israeli civilian population, IDF can stop the checkpoints? 

Israel pulls out of Gaza, so Hamas decides to kidnap and murder Isralis, and launch rockets into Israel, and Israel is to blame for their checkpoints?!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar,</p>
<p>Castro would use force to keep children and other civilians in Cuba. Just like Hez uses force to keep Lebanese in the combat zone.</p>
<p>Morris,</p>
<p>Abuses? Since when is being delayed at a checkpoint an abuse? Perhaps if Palistinians stop blowing themselves up among the Israeli civilian population, IDF can stop the checkpoints? </p>
<p>Israel pulls out of Gaza, so Hamas decides to kidnap and murder Isralis, and launch rockets into Israel, and Israel is to blame for their checkpoints?!</p>
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