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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30211</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I think it&#039;s also safe to say that these respective countries might be run by tyrants, but, they do not, under any rational circumstances, constitute a grave &#039;threat&#039; to the Western world, . . .&quot;

NK has nukes (thanks Clinton) and systems for delivering said nukes to the US mainland. That constituits a &quot;grave threat&quot; IMHO. 

No, NK doesn&#039;t have the power to end Western culture. It does have the power to end millions of lives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think it&#8217;s also safe to say that these respective countries might be run by tyrants, but, they do not, under any rational circumstances, constitute a grave &#8216;threat&#8217; to the Western world, . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>NK has nukes (thanks Clinton) and systems for delivering said nukes to the US mainland. That constituits a &#8220;grave threat&#8221; IMHO. </p>
<p>No, NK doesn&#8217;t have the power to end Western culture. It does have the power to end millions of lives.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Reverting to type..love it, love it, love it. Can always rely on the right for it.&quot;

That&#039;s nice, Lucy. Do you have an argument?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reverting to type..love it, love it, love it. Can always rely on the right for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s nice, Lucy. Do you have an argument?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the rape force]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the rape force</p>
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		By: snowonpine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snowonpine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see the malevolent clowns at the UN, led by Kofi with his big red nose and striped dunce cap with the propeller on top, have called for a UN &quot;peacekeeping force.&quot;  I wonder, is this their paedophile peacekeeping force or their run and hide peacekeeping force or perhaps its their collaborate with one side peacekeeping force?  So many choices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the malevolent clowns at the UN, led by Kofi with his big red nose and striped dunce cap with the propeller on top, have called for a UN &#8220;peacekeeping force.&#8221;  I wonder, is this their paedophile peacekeeping force or their run and hide peacekeeping force or perhaps its their collaborate with one side peacekeeping force?  So many choices.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30207</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for providing more support for my argument, probligo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing more support for my argument, probligo.</p>
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		By: probligo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30206</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[probligo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;&quot;People like stevie and probligo and tequila would disagree of course. But of course, they are the quintessential Left in my view so I cannot really expect them to comprehend the essence of others&lt;/em&gt;

Y,  your presumption and gratuitous insult for my part &lt;a href=&quot;http://probligo.blogspot.com/2006/07/blast-from-past.html&quot;&gt;is answered here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;People like stevie and probligo and tequila would disagree of course. But of course, they are the quintessential Left in my view so I cannot really expect them to comprehend the essence of others</em></p>
<p>Y,  your presumption and gratuitous insult for my part <a href="http://probligo.blogspot.com/2006/07/blast-from-past.html">is answered here</a>.</p>
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		By: snowonpine		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30205</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[snowonpine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 03:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is another problem here and that is the institutional one.  State believes in negotiation and diplomacy and apparently  nothing else.  To be as inoffensive as possible and never to tell the sometimes ugly truth is their goal. Empathize, not criticize, might be their motto.

It has been said that &quot;when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.&quot;  This is the State Department&#039;s MO to a T.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another problem here and that is the institutional one.  State believes in negotiation and diplomacy and apparently  nothing else.  To be as inoffensive as possible and never to tell the sometimes ugly truth is their goal. Empathize, not criticize, might be their motto.</p>
<p>It has been said that &#8220;when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.&#8221;  This is the State Department&#8217;s MO to a T.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30204</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The very fact that Lucy can consider any argument of mine &quot;good&quot;, is pretty good justification for why I was right when I said that Lucy was not part of the Left. Not in the sense that I meant when I used the Left, and not in the sense that most people used it either. My suspicions were validated, because I believe I can read people on the internet better than the average.

I don&#039;t see myself as on the right, because I don&#039;t view politics metaphysically as a spectrum. From Infant Red Left to Ultra Violent Right. I view it was a circle, go left far enough, hit the far right.

I am neither excusing terroist actions via the recent killing and mutilation of two American soldiers on tape, as the NYTimes does, nor do I get out of control with rage and advocate the execution of Iraqi civilians in retaliation.

People like stevie and probligo and tequila would disagree of course. But of course, they are the quintessential Left in my view so I cannot really expect them to comprehend the essence of others. I got tired of partisan differences a few years ago. Sure, it is good for training, and for neophytes to the political arena, but eventually you transcend the limitations of party and politics.

One thing I did notice and appreciate. Whenever I criticized Bush, Republicans and people like neo-neocon either agreed with me or they respected my views. Whenever I praised Bush, the Left would attack me and excorciate me, not to mention the ridicule and insults. That, in essence, is the quintessential Left. Pat Buchanan included of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very fact that Lucy can consider any argument of mine &#8220;good&#8221;, is pretty good justification for why I was right when I said that Lucy was not part of the Left. Not in the sense that I meant when I used the Left, and not in the sense that most people used it either. My suspicions were validated, because I believe I can read people on the internet better than the average.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see myself as on the right, because I don&#8217;t view politics metaphysically as a spectrum. From Infant Red Left to Ultra Violent Right. I view it was a circle, go left far enough, hit the far right.</p>
<p>I am neither excusing terroist actions via the recent killing and mutilation of two American soldiers on tape, as the NYTimes does, nor do I get out of control with rage and advocate the execution of Iraqi civilians in retaliation.</p>
<p>People like stevie and probligo and tequila would disagree of course. But of course, they are the quintessential Left in my view so I cannot really expect them to comprehend the essence of others. I got tired of partisan differences a few years ago. Sure, it is good for training, and for neophytes to the political arena, but eventually you transcend the limitations of party and politics.</p>
<p>One thing I did notice and appreciate. Whenever I criticized Bush, Republicans and people like neo-neocon either agreed with me or they respected my views. Whenever I praised Bush, the Left would attack me and excorciate me, not to mention the ridicule and insults. That, in essence, is the quintessential Left. Pat Buchanan included of course.</p>
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		By: Lucy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30203</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are a few exceptions here but generally it is just the usual insult flinging. I have bookmarked the few people who i would like to read more of and will just leave the rest of you to it. Neo-con, you have some good people here (Ymar for example) who make a good argument and some real stinkers who do not do your well written pieces justice.
Take care all
LucyP]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few exceptions here but generally it is just the usual insult flinging. I have bookmarked the few people who i would like to read more of and will just leave the rest of you to it. Neo-con, you have some good people here (Ymar for example) who make a good argument and some real stinkers who do not do your well written pieces justice.<br />
Take care all<br />
LucyP</p>
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		By: Lucy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/07/14/zeno-diplomacy/#comment-30202</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 21:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reverting to type..love it, love it, love it. Can always rely on the right for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reverting to type..love it, love it, love it. Can always rely on the right for it.</p>
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