Please read. A balanced perspective is required here in order to understand the complexity of the situation and how badly it’s been reported by an irresponsible and sensationalist media.

Do not judge in haste.
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Obviously. The fact that we see just as many Hindu terror bombers as Muslim terror bombers proves that.

You know, Muslims blow up trains in Spain, Hindus blow up, uhh . . . ?

Or Muslims set off bombs in London, and Hindus blow up, uhh . . . ?

Nothing could be farther from the truth. If anything, it’s the Hindu majority that has been routinely persecuted by the liberal socialist congress party. The key ingredient in Indian Politcs is the ‘vote bank’ mollycoddling. In order to secure the muslim vote bank, the left have shamelessly catered to muslim savagery. They have allowed Sharia Law to be practiced in Muslim communities, they have practically legalised rape and pedophilia among muslims. There are separtate laws for muslims, allowing them to commit polygamy and even marry their daughters on occasion (incest). They steal Hindu taxpayer money and give it to muslims to commit the hajj. Muslims have engaged in massive persecution of Hindus for 900 years in India. They have slaughtered an average of 80000 hindus per year for 5 centuries. Hindus have had ‘jizya’ and ‘dhimmitude’ imposed upon them, and Hindu widows have had to immolate themselves rather than be raped by muslims. Muslims went on wild iconoclastic binges, destroying any Hindu relic or temple that they could lay their eyes on.

In recent years, the partition riots (which somebody mentioned) claimed more Hindu lives than muslims. All of the major riots during the 1947 partition of the Indian Subcontinent were instigated by muslims.

Thes and other reasons are what perpetrated the Ramjanmabhoomi (Babri Mosque) incident in India in the 90s:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/368

Regarding the Gujarat riots, the instigators were muslims, again. They attacked and burnt down a train (Sabarmati Express) of Hindu pilgrims and the Hindus retaliated.

WARNING: These pictures of Muslim atrocities against Hindus are EXTREMELY GRUESOME:

http://www.fisiusa.org/fisi_pages/godhra_photos.htm

This was because the communist left government in India would rather see their fellow Hindus die than irritate the muslim vote bank by officially retaliating against them. This level of self-hatred is the reality of Indian politics.

To get a balanced and clear perspective of the hindu-muslim situation in India, please read the following:

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/irin/genocide.html

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/ayodhya/foundnlost.html

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/fascism/PolSec03AyubKhan1.html

The incompetent left wing and their islamic terrorist bedfellows have libelously demonized the Hindu Nationalist movement in India. Hindutva is a national liberation movement for the Hindu people (similar in many respects to Zionism in israel) and aims to resolve the right for Hindus to live in a democratic Hindu state (just like Israel is a democratic Jewish state) and repair the damage done to our civilization by muslims. Muslims want to convert India into an Islamic theocracy, as well as cede Kashmir to Pakistan.

Hindus have a legitimate cla

Ahmed, who is reported to have called the U.S. a “world Terrorist” and advocated “martyrdom operations in Iraq, Israel, Chechnya and Kashmir” told the Woodside meeting that the U.S. was “the Antichrist” and stated that “jihad is on” against the “U.S. superpower” according to notes from the meeting. After his statement that “The sword and the Qur’an go together,” he got several rousing “Allahu Akbars” from the hundreds attending, according to these same notes.

At first the ICNA president said he had no knowledge of the Woodside meeting, and did not know why Ahmed would represent ICNA. When informed that the reporter had information Ahmed had come to the U.S. to speak at the ICNA convention as well as the Woodside event, ICNA’s president then said, well we “maintain relations” with the JI ..”just to know what they’re doing.” and that when JI leaders come to the U.S., “we meet with them and have them address our conventions” but, “we have no practical connections with them.”

You may believe these jokers innocent, I don’t. Seems like a strong smell of Taqiyya and Kitman in the air.

Hmm.. “is being investigated” and you automatically assume they’re guilty …whatever happened to the idea of “presumption of innocent until proved guilty” ???

If you go a few pages deeper into Google you’ll see articles saying that ICNA is being investigated by the FBI and Congress for its connections to Al-Q, the Taliban and Hamas and that ICNA is apparently a Western front for Pakistan’s most powerful Islamist organization, the militant, fundamentalist, Jama’at-i –Islami (JI). These stories indicate that ICNA’s written statements and actions are not always so lovey-dovey.

So while ICNA seems very good at issuing reasonable sounding press releases and peaceful rhetoric, they obviously have an agenda quite different from the one they present to us here in the West.

The situation is more complex. The Gujarat violence against Muslims was carried out entirely by the BJP government at the state level. (BJP is the Hindu nationalist religious party).

The federal government (at the center), however, is led by the secularist Congress Party, and is supported (from the outside) by the left parties. The Congress Party or the left parties had not been involved in the violence against Muslims in India, and so the comment isn’t really hypocritical.

It seems that there is some news on responsibility for the bombings.

Read this article from Time listed on google.news in just the last hour.

Monsters and Critics also has a comparatively objective and dispassionate summary of where current events are at.

What I wish YOU to do is to read the last three paras of the Time article.

The first of those three paras is (from my knowledge and reading) a fairly accurate portrayal of the truth. As such it answers most of the points raised by the post fact ipso fact arguments and unchecked and unwarranted insult from other hecklers in some of the earlier comments.

Yes, you all are right in that Muslims are responsible. You can all go “Yay!!! We were right!!”

But I want to draw your attention to two very important facts –

First, as was correctly pointed out to me earlier, there is a long history of Islam in India and in conflict with Hindi. I never disputed that.

Currently, there are 150 million Muslims in India. They represent a significant disadvantaged minority of 15% of the population.

The Time article mentions that India killed a million Muslims in the partition of Pakistan in 1947. It also mentions that “some millions more” have been killed in the three wars against Pakistan. That is all within living memory. There is no mention of equivalent Indian casualties. I would imagine that since Pakistan literally did not exist in 1947, the Indian casualties would have been comparatively light.

The article also mentions (actually describes as a pogrom) the state sponsored anti-Muslim riots in Gujarat in 2002, the same events that I referred to in my earlier post.

I do not condone the actions of either side. It is wrong in my opinion to include the Mumbai bombings in the same category as the anti-American actions of AlQaeda. This is not “another example of international Islamic terrorism”. It is no more than just the latest incident in an on-going war that started before 1947.

Also in the news in the past four hours is a report that the explosives used were the same as Indian Army standard demolition charges.

For (Indian Foreign Ministry spokesman) Sarna to claim that “no cause justifies the murder of innocent people” is hypocrisy indeed, given the Gujarat incident for a start.

Remember please, that I am only drawing this to your collective attention. I have not (please note old waspie) resorted to extensive c&p. This post MIGHT have been a little shorter if I had, but that is quite a different argument.

Incorrect. See below:

http://www.icna.org/icna/

“Wednesday, 12 July 2006
The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), a grassroots organization of American Muslims, condemns the train blasts in Mumbai, India that has killed about 183 people and wounded more than 700.”

In case you haven’t noticed, Muslims don’t generally do things that benefit themselves directly. They do what their leaders tell them to do, up to and including “blow yourself up to kill as many unbelievers as you can.”

That goes for the 50% female population as well. There may be no benefits for them in strengthening theocratic Islam, but they will do everything they can to strengthen it anyhow.

And no, your studies won’t ever reveal the reason for it. Because there is no reason for it.