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		By: Fire Basket&#38;nbsp;		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-193239</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fire Basket&#38;nbsp;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i love to use binoculars when viewing sexy chics from a distance&#039;*`]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love to use binoculars when viewing sexy chics from a distance&#8217;*`</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17284</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;&quot;If you want vision, climb a tree. If you want binocular vision, change the shape of the skull. Being upright confers little advantage while making you pretty obvious to a skulking predator in the grass.&quot;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A funny story- ground squirrels, when spotting a bird of prey over head actually stand up and make a call telling the other squirrels &#039;look, a bird of prey&#039;.  Not &#039;danger, run!&#039;, and they all up and have a look.  Why?  Once they see the predator, they can&#039;t be taken by surprise, and they are quick enough to get away if necessary.  Sometimes vision is enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;If you want vision, climb a tree. If you want binocular vision, change the shape of the skull. Being upright confers little advantage while making you pretty obvious to a skulking predator in the grass.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>A funny story- ground squirrels, when spotting a bird of prey over head actually stand up and make a call telling the other squirrels &#8216;look, a bird of prey&#8217;.  Not &#8216;danger, run!&#8217;, and they all up and have a look.  Why?  Once they see the predator, they can&#8217;t be taken by surprise, and they are quick enough to get away if necessary.  Sometimes vision is enough.</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17285</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[bipedal motion is definately not an advantage for long migration.  Bipedal motion is actually MORE laborious, as you have to balance and engage the muscles of the torso much more than a quadruped.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I&#039;m all for science.  I just like to ask the questions that extend beyond where science leaves me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bipedal motion is definately not an advantage for long migration.  Bipedal motion is actually MORE laborious, as you have to balance and engage the muscles of the torso much more than a quadruped.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for science.  I just like to ask the questions that extend beyond where science leaves me.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17286</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The joints on a velociraptor is not the same as those of a human bipedal construct. And yes, the tail is not there either. The tail allows velociraptors to basically run like it has 4 legs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The joints on a velociraptor is not the same as those of a human bipedal construct. And yes, the tail is not there either. The tail allows velociraptors to basically run like it has 4 legs.</p>
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		By: Ariel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17287</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I missed something. Where is the mention of all the biped dinosuars? It was fairly common for the predators, and allowed great speed.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Don&#039;t forget, we lack a certain balance needed if a biped is to be quick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed something. Where is the mention of all the biped dinosuars? It was fairly common for the predators, and allowed great speed.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget, we lack a certain balance needed if a biped is to be quick.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17288</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you have a source of information explaining why things happen as they do, then by all means share. As far as I know, science is the only recourse we humans have in understanding about why nature chose to make us as we are. Well, you could go with God, but there isn&#039;t a lot of info in the Bible about God&#039;s image or why or the how or even the what.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My overall point about horses and men, independent of everything else, is not to say that men are superior at horses in endurance or speed. Although you could make that point, actually, as the articles I quoted supports a mite.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The simple overall objective is comparing that of bipedal characteristics with quadruped characteristics, analyzing the detriments and benefits, and realizing that the low energy cost of bipedal motion confers a great species migration advantage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have a source of information explaining why things happen as they do, then by all means share. As far as I know, science is the only recourse we humans have in understanding about why nature chose to make us as we are. Well, you could go with God, but there isn&#8217;t a lot of info in the Bible about God&#8217;s image or why or the how or even the what.</p>
<p>My overall point about horses and men, independent of everything else, is not to say that men are superior at horses in endurance or speed. Although you could make that point, actually, as the articles I quoted supports a mite.</p>
<p>The simple overall objective is comparing that of bipedal characteristics with quadruped characteristics, analyzing the detriments and benefits, and realizing that the low energy cost of bipedal motion confers a great species migration advantage.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17289</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/mid_/3801177.stm&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;He completed the 22-mile course in two hours, five minutes, and 19 seconds.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bookies William Hill had to pay out on scores of bets struck at odds of 16/1.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This year&#039;s contest had a record 500 runners and more than 40 horses and riders competing for the winning title.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The event in the tiny Welsh town attracts competitors from throughout the UK and Europe.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;South Londoner Mr Lobb, 27, is an experienced marathon runner but he admitted to being &quot;ecstatic&quot; when he realised he had won.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;It is a very unusual event with men running against horses,&quot; he said.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;race contestants&lt;BR/&gt;Around 300 competitors took part in the race&lt;BR/&gt;He said he managed to break away from the pack at about the 10-mile mark. However, despite crossing the finish line alone, he had to wait 15 minutes before finding out if he had won. &lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;These races are not an accurates testament to ancient man because ancient man had different capabilities, probably was a lot tougher in terms of marathons and 100 mile distances&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;By all means, disbelieve the evidence and the logic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/mid_/3801177.stm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/mid_/3801177.stm</a></p>
<p><b>He completed the 22-mile course in two hours, five minutes, and 19 seconds.</p>
<p>Bookies William Hill had to pay out on scores of bets struck at odds of 16/1.</p>
<p>This year&#8217;s contest had a record 500 runners and more than 40 horses and riders competing for the winning title.</p>
<p>The event in the tiny Welsh town attracts competitors from throughout the UK and Europe.</p>
<p>South Londoner Mr Lobb, 27, is an experienced marathon runner but he admitted to being &#8220;ecstatic&#8221; when he realised he had won.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is a very unusual event with men running against horses,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>race contestants<br />Around 300 competitors took part in the race<br />He said he managed to break away from the pack at about the 10-mile mark. However, despite crossing the finish line alone, he had to wait 15 minutes before finding out if he had won. </b></p>
<p><a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon" REL="nofollow">These races are not an accurates testament to ancient man because ancient man had different capabilities, probably was a lot tougher in terms of marathons and 100 mile distances</a></p>
<p>By all means, disbelieve the evidence and the logic.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17290</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for endurance, your average horse can go farther in a day than your average human can, and carrying you while doing it- so I&#039;m not buying that.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Average humans died by the thousands if not the millions back in the day. So that&#039;s not an argument for evolutionary principles. Nature cares little for &quot;average&quot;, it cares a lot for members who are elite and have survived.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If you want vision, climb a tree. If you want binocular vision, change the shape of the skull. Being upright confers little advantage while making you pretty obvious to a skulking predator in the grass.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><br />As for endurance, your average horse can go farther in a day than your average human can, and carrying you while doing it- so I&#8217;m not buying that.</b></p>
<p>Average humans died by the thousands if not the millions back in the day. So that&#8217;s not an argument for evolutionary principles. Nature cares little for &#8220;average&#8221;, it cares a lot for members who are elite and have survived.</p>
<p>If you want vision, climb a tree. If you want binocular vision, change the shape of the skull. Being upright confers little advantage while making you pretty obvious to a skulking predator in the grass.</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17291</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I thought upright locomotion was about vision as much as anything else.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Speed is of utmost importance for predators, combined with stealth.  Being upright makes it harder to sneak up on you (a little).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for endurance, your average horse can go farther in a day than your average human can, and carrying you while doing it- so I&#039;m not buying that.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Brains are difficult, troublesome, unreliable, and consume quite a bit of energy.  Instinct is simple, effective, reliable, and requires only a modicum of brainpower (and thus energy).  Consider also that it took a long time for us to really take advantage of being bipedal and having opposable thumbs.  Apes still make limited use of the opposeable thumb, other than for grasping obects for simple tasks (and flinging poo), but that&#039;s not much advantage over a tiger or panther.  Try beating one off your back with a baseball bat...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Science leaves me unsatisfied here.  Nature doesn&#039;t seem to prefer us, we beat the odds.  Why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought upright locomotion was about vision as much as anything else.</p>
<p>Speed is of utmost importance for predators, combined with stealth.  Being upright makes it harder to sneak up on you (a little).</p>
<p>As for endurance, your average horse can go farther in a day than your average human can, and carrying you while doing it- so I&#8217;m not buying that.</p>
<p>Brains are difficult, troublesome, unreliable, and consume quite a bit of energy.  Instinct is simple, effective, reliable, and requires only a modicum of brainpower (and thus energy).  Consider also that it took a long time for us to really take advantage of being bipedal and having opposable thumbs.  Apes still make limited use of the opposeable thumb, other than for grasping obects for simple tasks (and flinging poo), but that&#8217;s not much advantage over a tiger or panther.  Try beating one off your back with a baseball bat&#8230;</p>
<p>Science leaves me unsatisfied here.  Nature doesn&#8217;t seem to prefer us, we beat the odds.  Why?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/06/17/i-think-youll-agree/#comment-17292</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[P.S. the way the human knee is structured, allows humanity the ability to cross EXTREMELY long distances on foot, while using as little energy as possible. Look at how the hindlegs of a dog or a tiger or a cheetah is constructed. It is not jointed in the same way. Our weight rests upon our knees and our foot, it requires little muscle power to just stand there. A cheetah has to use muscle power to lift himself up. For humans, the structure of our knee allows greater endurance and conservation of energy and calories.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Apes can walk on two legs, but they revert to four for speed. Humans have specialized in being bipeds, simply because, well because. Too much reliance on having a brain, got slow you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. the way the human knee is structured, allows humanity the ability to cross EXTREMELY long distances on foot, while using as little energy as possible. Look at how the hindlegs of a dog or a tiger or a cheetah is constructed. It is not jointed in the same way. Our weight rests upon our knees and our foot, it requires little muscle power to just stand there. A cheetah has to use muscle power to lift himself up. For humans, the structure of our knee allows greater endurance and conservation of energy and calories.</p>
<p>Apes can walk on two legs, but they revert to four for speed. Humans have specialized in being bipeds, simply because, well because. Too much reliance on having a brain, got slow you know.</p>
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