Can you say “Yusuf Islam”?

12:57 PM, June 09, 2006

Sure. C A T S T E V E N S.

Glad to be of service.

You really are very very childish Stumbley.

Do you think not well disguised lying and overt misinterpretation does your argument any good?

Can you say “Yusuf Islam”?

Now, granted, this guy’s just a common troll, and one of the dimmer bulbs in an already dull gallery at that. Moreover, for someone who looks upon the likes of Zarqawi and his merry band of islamofascist throatcutters as Minutemen-like freedom fighters, to be taking his political insights from an old fat Nazi seems funny but not surprising. Nevertheless, there’s a glimmer of an idea here, however mangled and inverted, that’s worth a closer look.

Whatever ol’ Hermann might have known, he clearly didn’t know much about democracy (an ignorance our troll here obviously shares) — also not surprising. He didn’t know, for example, that in a democracy the “leaders” have to contend with a number of different voices, telling people all manner of contrary things. Some of those voices, it’s quite true, may try to lure the country into a war by inventing or exaggerating foreign threats — and about that sort of thing, ol’ Hermann did know quite a bit. So, by the way, do Hermann’s ideological descendants among the current islamofascists, and so do their leftist sympathizers and apologists with their fevered attempts to paint America as an international predator.

But some of those voices as well may try to lull the country into a false sense of security or placidity, by diminishing or dismissing very real threats — and there too, ol’ Hermann and his gang understood how to appeal to those very elements within the unfortunate countries that the Nazis were about to devour, and within those countries’ allies. And there too we can hear a clear echo of this soothing lie, all too eagerly lapped up by the more naive and frightened among the populace, among current leftist attempts to wave away the whole islamist assault on the West as a culture. Some of those attempts are themselves merely naive and wishful. But some, I think it’s not only fair but important to say, represent the often deceitful voice of those whose own hatred of the West has overcome their distaste for the islamofascists, and overwhelmed their reason and moral integrity in the process.

I do delete the trolls. Only a vain person keeps them around to increase traffic.

vain? Or am i not a troll? One or the other boy.

I shall continue to complain about your antics here, because there is no reason to tolerate them. Yeah i get the impression tolerate is not a big word with you. Try talking to comrade wasp you guys have a lot in common, and it will be interesting to see who bosses who about the most.
The Lenin thread just happened to be the current one when i went on the site, and , to be honest I wasn’t very interested by a dreary discussion of a long dismissed peice of work. I tried to engage you in debate, but it isn’t your style so…. i got deleted. I will live 🙂

As i keep saying if you want to argue fine; if you want to whine away about how it is not an argument and the other kids aren’t playing fair then go for it.

That don’t make any sense.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/goering-got-it-so-right/2006/06/08/1149359884853.html

Old Hermann certainly knew a thing or two.

” These have a kind of over-the-top, fantastical quality to them, certainly, and it remains to be seen just how serious such plots were. But it would be well to remember how fantastical the events of 9/11 would have sounded on 9/10 or any day previous”

One of your silliest posts yet Sally. The hard data that there was a plot involving hi-jacked civilian aircraft was available and should have been recognized by your heros all the way up the “The Decider”.

Instead, they were all sitting around dreaming up ways to sway the world that Iraqi oil needed to be ‘liberated’.

Those mushy islamofascist loving multiculturalist obscene liberal Canadians seem to have decided that foiling the plot BEFORE the execution seems to work rather better.

Any thoughts on the notion of habeus corpus for the alleged plotters?