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And as for our nations respective military might – we are both stretched to breaking point in Iraq, your tours of duty are twice as long as the UK army – and a third of your troops in country are National Guard. Again, stones in glass houses.

I don’t think a lot of people, and this includes AMericans, realizes just what is going on with our military. Not surprising, the Generals keep talking about being stretched. The thing is, the reason why we rotate so many divisions and brigades to Iraq and back to the US, is because we are spreading the combat experience. A military force is no good if it is too green to face the enemy. If you don’t pull your forces back to the homefront and let them teach others the tricks of the trade, you run the risk of burning out your most experienced combat veterans. Japan did that and lost all their experienced pilots, and had no one left to train the new pilots, and then got slaughtered in the Marianas Turkey Shoot.

Besides, the National Guard wants its piece of the action too, as with the Marines, you can’t really keep combat commanders away from Tours of Duty. That’s like, you know, trying to tell someone if they do X, they will have more promotions. They’ll do X, be assured of that. One of the reasons for the low tour of duty length. In Vietnam it was like years. In Iraq? 12 months, just a bout.

What this actually means is that the US military is almost as good as we appear on paper, if not better. Russia has 1 million people in their army, but only pocking 40,000 can fight. That’s more than a 7 to 3 logistics ratio. RUSSIA is stretched. They don’t have the troops to put somewhere else in the world, because ALL of them are busy in Chechnya or thereabouts.

TWO THIRDS of US troops are here at home, training, basically waiting to be deployed. This doesn’t include the Navy and Air Force. They’re on continous patrols and tours. Which beside the air strikes and support, really isn’t doing much of anything in their free time, except (guess) train.

Amateurs can call that stretched, I call it a lean mean fighting machine. At least for the US.

I’ll tell you wgy iu don’t care about our position relative one religion to another – IT’S HOOEY (religion in general).

I’ll remember that when the Islamics string you up in the streets 20 years from now, for violating Sharia Law.

but you can not destroy a weapon –

Like I said, guerrila wars are eating soup with a knife. Sure, it might take a while, but you can get it done eventually with determination. There is no cannot in reality.

Those “idiots” include the President of Iran, the leader(or figurehead) of a terror-sponsoring state. Those “idiots” seem to include a large part of the Muslim world.

My paranoia is perfectly intact for good reason – “we” are involved in a war without end against an “enemy” who is nebulous, without home state and can appear anywhere at anytime. But i honestly don’t really mind, they have a job to kill me – they haven’t suceeded (thus far) – and my government whom are entrusted as protector of my rights as an idividual are also failing.

The potential of a grisly death is one i am fully prepared for….. i can corss the street and die tommorrow – my method of death doesn’t really concern me. “Live free or die”…… i believe was once a (now apparently misguided) rallying call from your side of the pond.

Talk about confusing! Wozza writes of what president with the expanded powers they now have will call the war over?– and because of his worries about expanded US Presidential power(none of which are unprecedented in times of war) I mention paranoia and he replies with a rambling missive about “war without end,” against a “nebulous enemy.” But he doesn’t mind the terrorists! Why? Because it is their job!!! At this point one might pause and wonder about the mentality that considers terrorism a “job.” But it gets even stranger. He goes on to concede that the terrorists haven’t killed him but is angry at the government because the government hasn’t done enough to protect his “rights as an individual.” Wozza may be murdered by terrorists but he doesn’t care about that; that’s just their “job.” He’s prepared for and reconciled to being murdered, that’s nothing, a minor point, apparently. What really worries wozza and gets him enflamed is that reading lists at US libraries might be perused by the FBI. The lack of priorities in anti-war thinking is truly a wonder to behold.

I was puzzled by wuzzo’s “Senior citizens Peace groups” reference. I have news for wuzzo. Peace Fresno has nothing much to do with senior citizens. Peace Fresno is an interesting anti-war group who sends delegates to Anti-American conferences in Pakistan. I’ve heard that there are a few Muslims in Pakistan. Doesn’t this attendance constitute “Islamic overtones,” or maybe ‘Islamic connection’ would be a more apt phrase? Didn’t some of the London bombers visit Pakistan just before the bombings? I think I want my government keeping an eye on those who attend Anti-American conferences in Pakistan, just in case. The group is probably harmless but better safe than sorry, eh? Ninety-nine percent of intelligence is useless, it’s that one percent that saves lives. BTW, judging from a placard carried by them in a demonstration, Peace Fresno apparently believes the US government was in on 9/11. What a bunch of “idiots,” eh?

http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/03/1674284.php

Scroll down the page to the second photo and observe the white sign on the right. Of the seven people whose faces are shown, only one could be classified as a senior citizen — the other six seem pretty young. I ran across many photos of Peace Fresno marches and saw mainly young faces — very few senior citizens.

Actually, I don’t mind merely being “tolerated” as a person or a set of values, toleration speaks a lot about how grown up a culture is.

I don’t mind being tolerated either, but if it takes bending over so the terrorists can have a better angle in order to be tolerated, I’ll pass.

In case you’re out there somewhere.

You assert that the war has allowed our President to grab powers far in excess of those he should have. The fact of the matter is that British and United State governmental sytems are very different; one major difference being that the U.S. has a written Consitution and a Bill of Rights listing specific rights.

In the U.S. the President has certain powers, very broad ones, derived from our written constitution; one of these is his role as Commander in Chief. Then there are other powers that Presidents have traditionally had by extension or by custom. In the current political climate, people opposed to President Bush have decided to characterize his use of his powers of office, ones used by prior Presidents–Bill Clinton comes to mind–and which usually are a not subject to very much question, as illigitimate. This is usually a matter for the Supreme Court to decide.

And goodnight and good luck – i’m gonna not check back on this thread.

my last post was basically a collection bullet point replies to points about my previous posts.

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But i would caution against your optimism regarding your own constitution – in WW2 there was going to be a surrender there had to be a definitive cut off point as to how long restrictions would remain in force.
And the President has heretofor unfound powers – he has taken “inherent powers of the office” far beyond any of those granted to any previous President without statute.
I’m not claiming the UK is Superior – or the US inferior, just that i have a feeling we are never going to be as free again as we were.

And as for our nations respective military might – we are both stretched to breaking point in Iraq, your tours of duty are twice as long as the UK army – and a third of your troops in country are National Guard. Again, stones in glass houses.

The British Forces are the least well equipped, but best trained in combat and by far better peace keeprs and policemen.
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I do have a fairly British view of things, guilty as charged – it’s less militaristic for starters. I do not give a hoot if islam becomes the majority religion in the UK, or who lives where – as for Finsbury Park – the guy could have been arrested and deported years ago under legislation from the 1800’s. The fact he wasn’t is a disgrace – no argument.
I’ll tell you wgy iu don’t care about our position relative one religion to another – IT’S HOOEY (religion in general).
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And i’m going to repeat – the War On Terror s going to go the same way as the war on drugs – nowhere.

I know how much military (reserve) muscle the US has, and your relative Civillian populations, god flag and country patriotism – that is all taken as a gimme – but you can not destroy a weapon – which is what Terror is.
You can reduce it, make it less appealing, kill lots of people, use orange jumpsuits, pig farmers from New Orleans can go to Tikrit for 6months at a time while their farms fold and hurricanes go unrepaired – but you can not and will not stop people wanting to kill other people for a belief.

The number one method of frustrating islamists lies completely outside the scope of your local police — including SWAT: intelligence penetration. These players aren’t unhappy voters: they’re subversive aliens supported by a foreign power.

The British Army is already neutered by domestic politics. Time to return home.

As it stands, the Iranians have successfully played everyone for fools: she already has the bomb. She used the Nork/ Israeli gambit: cross over on the sly and never, never test. Just use proven conservative designs.

The MSM and all the world’s governments are successfully concentrating all attention on highly enriched uranium 235 as THE way to the bomb.

However, plutonium is much easier to produce and has been the route to the bomb for: Pakistan, India, Israel, North Korea, ….

All that is needed is heavy water and a simple swimming pool converter.

Iran has had heavy water production capacity since 1995. (IAEA report)

Iran has skied right through every redline: hence the quiet.

The peace has been raped.

It does appear that Iran only has a very limited nuclear inventory. Her ability to deliver is weak. As we breathe she is mating up missile and nuke.

That’s why Israel is reaching for the trigger.

FDR waited and waited — for Pearl Harbor. He didn’t have a political base for anti-Axis warfare.

Bush is forced down the same path. The trigger event in our time figures to be a whopper.

The mullahs are ‘off the hook’ — they are plunge bettors.

The invite to submit to Islam is a gauntlet. BEWARE.

People have to realize where wozza is coming from. It is not an American centric viewpoint. Meaning, he does not use the resources available to America, when he makes his conclusions about winning or not winning.

Obviouslly your analysis of any war will differ ebased upon what kind of resources you can draw upon. Britain draws upon a very different resource, both civilian and military, than the US.

You can call it paranoia or not, but if I was British, I wouldn’t trust the British government with securing individual liberty. Their constitution is NOT the US Constitution. People have got to remember that, and act more cosmopolitan. Everything’s not about how parochial we are.

Wozza’s comments appear different if you take it to mean he speaks solely about his own country. However, if he seeks to apply this to America, then he’d be dead wrong. Cosmopolitan, remember, not parochialism.

The US can withstand civil rights curtailments, as we did in WWII and the Civ War.

Two reasons.

We got the 2nd Ammendment and we have 1 gun per 1 person in America. (1 person owns more than one gun, so not everyone in America owns a gun) The other reason is that American uses wars to solve problems, not just to go around trashing cities and battlefields. The Europeans have a horrid track record with their wars, therefore all those civil rights limitations will get worse and worse, because their wars keep going on and on like WWI to WWII. They can’t get enough of war, they try their hardest to come up with humiliating peace treaties to piss their enemies off, and then skimp on their military.

You’r jumping around like a flea on a hot griddle,stringing thoughts together with no real connection between them, it seems to me.

As for your last comment about the measure of a mature civilization being the amount of toleration it has, some things just shouldn’t be tolerated.

You may congratulate yourself on what a tolerant fellow you are when you allow one of the Muslim imams in Britain, say at the Finsbury Mosque, to call for the eradication of Christians and Jews and encourage acts of terrorism. Me, I guess I must not be so civilized because I’d shut him down and drop kick him back to what ever hell hole he came from. Beheadings may be sanctioned by historical precedent or the Koran, but I ‘m not about to “understand the rage” or sympatiize with the “shame and victimization” felt by the beheader; he needs to be put down like the rabid dog he is.

To be blunt, it looks like political correctness, wishful thinking and lack of resolve have already put the U.K. in a perilous situation vis-a-vis its Muslim population and the trends don’t look favorable. I don’t think the U.S. should follow your prescriptions at all.

Finally, if you believe that WE CAN’T WIN, then you should be scouting out a local mosque and some long robes right now, cause you’re gonna need this information in the not so distant future.