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		By: dog health care product		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/02/02/its-your-party-and-youll-cry-if-you/#comment-9558</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog health care product]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for presenting this information, it was entertaining as well as thought provoking.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thank You,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://dogs-health.blogspot.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dog health care product&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for presenting this information, it was entertaining as well as thought provoking.</p>
<p>Thank You,</p>
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		By: Van		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Van]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[douglas said...&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Van, glad to see you have settled down for a nice conversation.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;--Thanks for noticing.  I never meant to be contentious in the first place.  I need to be a little more careful about how I respond to objections.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>douglas said&#8230;<br />&#8220;Van, glad to see you have settled down for a nice conversation.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Thanks for noticing.  I never meant to be contentious in the first place.  I need to be a little more careful about how I respond to objections.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll believe the Democrats stand for the Constitution when they stop trying to erase the 2nd Ammendment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/2006/02/2nd-ammendment-treatises.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2nd Ammendment Wisdom&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;If any of this was being perpetrated by a democratic president and congress, you people would be screaming impeachment, indictment and bloody murder.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, we&#039;d be staging a military coup if we thought a Democratic President was doing the same things the Democrats has said our Republican President is doing.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Democrats can&#039;t stage a military coup, cause the military is not on their side. Democrats just don&#039;t get it, and they never will, cause they&#039;re never going to corrupt our military with their fantasies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll believe the Democrats stand for the Constitution when they stop trying to erase the 2nd Ammendment.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://ymarsakar.blogspot.com/2006/02/2nd-ammendment-treatises.html" REL="nofollow">2nd Ammendment Wisdom</a></p>
<p><b>If any of this was being perpetrated by a democratic president and congress, you people would be screaming impeachment, indictment and bloody murder.</b></p>
<p>Actually, we&#8217;d be staging a military coup if we thought a Democratic President was doing the same things the Democrats has said our Republican President is doing.</p>
<p>Democrats can&#8217;t stage a military coup, cause the military is not on their side. Democrats just don&#8217;t get it, and they never will, cause they&#8217;re never going to corrupt our military with their fantasies.</p>
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		By: aqualung		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aqualung]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see my comment generated a little name calling and the usual screed against people who refuse to accept (devote themselves to) a party and administration that has nothing but contempt for due process, individual freedom and the constitution.  Not one of the subsequent comments address any of the sins I listed about the current ruling party in this country, but rather engage in the usual right-wing non-sense.  If any of this was being perpetrated by a democratic president and congress, you people would be screaming impeachment, indictment and bloody murder.  The only reason it goes on is that we have one party rule, and the only reason we have that is because of the K Street project, jamming of phone lines, and a Supreme Court so ashamed of it&#039;s finding in Bush v Gore that the individual justices refused to personally sign it.  Am I sad that the Democratic Party is so impotent in it&#039;s pursuit of all of this?  Sure I am.  But let&#039;s face it, with talk radio, FOX (should I say FAUX)) News and the MSM that has coddled and enabled BUsh since day one of his regime, the Democrats yell into a strong, wing-nut wind, in the hopes that anyone addicted to O&quot;Reilly, Hannity and Neo-neocon, are going to listen.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But, how&#039;s this for standing FOR something: competence in governing, belief in the constitution, and rejection of bribery and graft.  The Democrats, as against the Republican party (the current on at least), should be able to run on that.  By the way, be sure to vote for one of the Democratic Iraqi war vets running in a congressional district near you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see my comment generated a little name calling and the usual screed against people who refuse to accept (devote themselves to) a party and administration that has nothing but contempt for due process, individual freedom and the constitution.  Not one of the subsequent comments address any of the sins I listed about the current ruling party in this country, but rather engage in the usual right-wing non-sense.  If any of this was being perpetrated by a democratic president and congress, you people would be screaming impeachment, indictment and bloody murder.  The only reason it goes on is that we have one party rule, and the only reason we have that is because of the K Street project, jamming of phone lines, and a Supreme Court so ashamed of it&#8217;s finding in Bush v Gore that the individual justices refused to personally sign it.  Am I sad that the Democratic Party is so impotent in it&#8217;s pursuit of all of this?  Sure I am.  But let&#8217;s face it, with talk radio, FOX (should I say FAUX)) News and the MSM that has coddled and enabled BUsh since day one of his regime, the Democrats yell into a strong, wing-nut wind, in the hopes that anyone addicted to O&#8221;Reilly, Hannity and Neo-neocon, are going to listen.</p>
<p>But, how&#8217;s this for standing FOR something: competence in governing, belief in the constitution, and rejection of bribery and graft.  The Democrats, as against the Republican party (the current on at least), should be able to run on that.  By the way, be sure to vote for one of the Democratic Iraqi war vets running in a congressional district near you.</p>
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		By: douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[douglas]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shan said &lt;I&gt;&quot;...and Hitchens sues the government over an aspect of its foreign policy, the Party&#039;s lost the plot. What, other than a reliance on nineeleven, do Republicans stand for?&quot;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Uh, Hitchens ain&#039;t no Republican.  He isn&#039;t even close to being conservative- he&#039;s one of the few on the left that understand the threat posed to liberal ideology by the rise of Islam in the west...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Van, glad to see you have settled down for a nice conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shan said <i>&#8220;&#8230;and Hitchens sues the government over an aspect of its foreign policy, the Party&#8217;s lost the plot. What, other than a reliance on nineeleven, do Republicans stand for?&#8221;</i><br />Uh, Hitchens ain&#8217;t no Republican.  He isn&#8217;t even close to being conservative- he&#8217;s one of the few on the left that understand the threat posed to liberal ideology by the rise of Islam in the west&#8230;</p>
<p>Van, glad to see you have settled down for a nice conversation.</p>
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		By: Van		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Van]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Johhymac - &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thank you for the book tip.  I&#039;ll try to find a copy and at least read the part that you suggest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johhymac &#8211; </p>
<p>Thank you for the book tip.  I&#8217;ll try to find a copy and at least read the part that you suggest.</p>
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		By: JohnnyMac		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Van, at 11:13 AM Feb. 3, wrote: &quot;I recently read a report that suggested that nearly 30% of the homeless are former soldiers suffering from PSTD.&quot; I recommend you read B. G. Burkett&#039;s excellent book &quot;Stolen Valor&quot; (1998).&lt;BR/&gt;Burkett systematically takes apart the myths about veterans that the media peddle and contrasts them with reality.  The idea that most/many veterans are homeless is one he addresses.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Van, at 11:13 AM Feb. 3, wrote: &#8220;I recently read a report that suggested that nearly 30% of the homeless are former soldiers suffering from PSTD.&#8221; I recommend you read B. G. Burkett&#8217;s excellent book &#8220;Stolen Valor&#8221; (1998).<br />Burkett systematically takes apart the myths about veterans that the media peddle and contrasts them with reality.  The idea that most/many veterans are homeless is one he addresses.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/02/02/its-your-party-and-youll-cry-if-you/#comment-9565</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://doc.weblogs.com/2006/02/03#andSendsThemToHell&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Picture of Hillary&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ain&#039;t that scary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://doc.weblogs.com/2006/02/03#andSendsThemToHell" REL="nofollow">Picture of Hillary</a></p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that scary.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;B&gt;My once-proud party seems to be sinking ever faster into a sort of quicksand of peevishness and rage, like Rumpelstiltskin stomping himself into the ground.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unleash a selfish generation of wannabe gangsta rappers, criminals, and thugs and you might find out that you are no longer in control of the mob anymore.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That their fury and hate isn&#039;t just going to make them riot and blow up Republicans, but anyone that they can touch, including their so called &lt;I&gt;political masters&lt;/I&gt; and sugar daddies.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;People who don&#039;t get logic takes everything personally. That&#039;s their fault, nobody else&#039;s. As Neo Neo Con can attest to, anyone that relies on emotions and is challeneged by anything remotely dissenting, resorts to emotional tirades and not logical rejoinders. Because a person emotionally invested in his pet theory cannot differentiate attacks on his person and attacks on his beliefs, which in the end, is all the same to that person. Ad hominem attacks, for those in the know, is only wrong if the &quot;accussation&quot; doesn&#039;t prove why the beliefs are wrong. When the &quot;attack&quot; is on the belief and why it is wrong, it cannot be an ad hominem. There&#039;s a certain circular logic going on, still, but that&#039;s easy to shortcircuit. An ad hominem is only an ad hominem when it uses an attack on a person to say that he is wrong, like saying someone is stupid and therefore he is wrong. If a person just says you&#039;re a jerk, even if you are right, that&#039;s not an ad hominem if you parse the logic. Just an insult.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Aqualung&#039;s going on with his Democrat posting notes again, about Abramoff. You&#039;d think that with the Democratic hardon for Abramoff, they might want to get the ACLU to get some lawsuits going against him, you know.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I like cutting education. It&#039;s about time we stopped listening to teacher&#039;s unions and started representing children directly, and empowering them with the rights and funds to take care of their own education. Allowing children to be in the power of Liberal Teacher&#039;s Unions that do nothing but drain away money for politics, is hurting the children.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Most Democrats don&#039;t care engineer the solution, but certainly others do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>My once-proud party seems to be sinking ever faster into a sort of quicksand of peevishness and rage, like Rumpelstiltskin stomping himself into the ground.</b></p>
<p>Unleash a selfish generation of wannabe gangsta rappers, criminals, and thugs and you might find out that you are no longer in control of the mob anymore.</p>
<p>That their fury and hate isn&#8217;t just going to make them riot and blow up Republicans, but anyone that they can touch, including their so called <i>political masters</i> and sugar daddies.</p>
<p>People who don&#8217;t get logic takes everything personally. That&#8217;s their fault, nobody else&#8217;s. As Neo Neo Con can attest to, anyone that relies on emotions and is challeneged by anything remotely dissenting, resorts to emotional tirades and not logical rejoinders. Because a person emotionally invested in his pet theory cannot differentiate attacks on his person and attacks on his beliefs, which in the end, is all the same to that person. Ad hominem attacks, for those in the know, is only wrong if the &#8220;accussation&#8221; doesn&#8217;t prove why the beliefs are wrong. When the &#8220;attack&#8221; is on the belief and why it is wrong, it cannot be an ad hominem. There&#8217;s a certain circular logic going on, still, but that&#8217;s easy to shortcircuit. An ad hominem is only an ad hominem when it uses an attack on a person to say that he is wrong, like saying someone is stupid and therefore he is wrong. If a person just says you&#8217;re a jerk, even if you are right, that&#8217;s not an ad hominem if you parse the logic. Just an insult.</p>
<p>Aqualung&#8217;s going on with his Democrat posting notes again, about Abramoff. You&#8217;d think that with the Democratic hardon for Abramoff, they might want to get the ACLU to get some lawsuits going against him, you know.</p>
<p>I like cutting education. It&#8217;s about time we stopped listening to teacher&#8217;s unions and started representing children directly, and empowering them with the rights and funds to take care of their own education. Allowing children to be in the power of Liberal Teacher&#8217;s Unions that do nothing but drain away money for politics, is hurting the children.</p>
<p>Most Democrats don&#8217;t care engineer the solution, but certainly others do.</p>
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		By: Motor 1560		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eddie, condescension is only part of it, and I won&#039;t do consecutive translation for Rio Linda, they can go to Sac State and use a dictionary in the library.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Their problem is that they have been whispering in their own left ear for so long that the gibberish is starting to make sense. When that happens you are either insane or a prophet. The tip off here is that prophets don&#039;t talk to individuals, they have revealed truth and would prefer to speak to whole peoples.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You can only betray your core constituency so many times. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Keep fooling me and you must be a party leader. In simpler times that kind of strategy meant that your district would vote you a hemp necktie at their earliest opportunity.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now it simply means that you have to give them no alternative. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;One pill makes you larger&lt;BR/&gt;And one pill makes you small&lt;BR/&gt;And the ones that mother gives you&lt;BR/&gt;Don&#039;t do anything at all&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You demonize the opposition to such an extent that the voters always choose the one that mother gives them. This BTW is an equal opportunity strategy.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#039;s going to take an intervention and a long spell in detox. God knows what that&#039;s going to look like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddie, condescension is only part of it, and I won&#8217;t do consecutive translation for Rio Linda, they can go to Sac State and use a dictionary in the library.</p>
<p>Their problem is that they have been whispering in their own left ear for so long that the gibberish is starting to make sense. When that happens you are either insane or a prophet. The tip off here is that prophets don&#8217;t talk to individuals, they have revealed truth and would prefer to speak to whole peoples.</p>
<p>You can only betray your core constituency so many times. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Keep fooling me and you must be a party leader. In simpler times that kind of strategy meant that your district would vote you a hemp necktie at their earliest opportunity.</p>
<p>Now it simply means that you have to give them no alternative. </p>
<p><i>One pill makes you larger<br />And one pill makes you small<br />And the ones that mother gives you<br />Don&#8217;t do anything at all</i></p>
<p>You demonize the opposition to such an extent that the voters always choose the one that mother gives them. This BTW is an equal opportunity strategy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to take an intervention and a long spell in detox. God knows what that&#8217;s going to look like.</p>
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