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		By: A Christian Prophet		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/29/voting-game/#comment-9260</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Christian Prophet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Holy Spirit might say that democracy itself is a dangerous and stupid game. The real question is: can democracy facilitate peace anywhere? As the Holy Spirit&#039;s messages point out on the Christian Prophet blog, democracy is a system of conflict. It always leads to political factions fighting against each other. Democracy does not teach peace. It teaches attack and defense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Holy Spirit might say that democracy itself is a dangerous and stupid game. The real question is: can democracy facilitate peace anywhere? As the Holy Spirit&#8217;s messages point out on the Christian Prophet blog, democracy is a system of conflict. It always leads to political factions fighting against each other. Democracy does not teach peace. It teaches attack and defense.</p>
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		By: sabinal		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/29/voting-game/#comment-9261</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I voted Green party in 2004 and am proud that I did to this day. To me, neither candidate had either a straightfoward idea on how to handle domestic or foreign problems. It was a protest/sincere vote, as I agree with many things the Green party believes.&lt;BR/&gt; However, I do not suffer BDS - BDS is just nothing more than a spoiled brat temper tantrum for people who have nothing constructive to deliver to the situation/conversation. I&#039;m tired of angry yet clueless Democrats who are ready to bash Bush but have no idea - or refuse to accept - how to handle the war on terror]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted Green party in 2004 and am proud that I did to this day. To me, neither candidate had either a straightfoward idea on how to handle domestic or foreign problems. It was a protest/sincere vote, as I agree with many things the Green party believes.<br /> However, I do not suffer BDS &#8211; BDS is just nothing more than a spoiled brat temper tantrum for people who have nothing constructive to deliver to the situation/conversation. I&#8217;m tired of angry yet clueless Democrats who are ready to bash Bush but have no idea &#8211; or refuse to accept &#8211; how to handle the war on terror</p>
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		By: BeckyJ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/29/voting-game/#comment-9262</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The last French presidential election saw the same phenomenon.  The French always use the 1st round of voting in presidential elections as a protest vote.  Last time however, Le Pen came in 2nd ousting Jospin (the Socialist candidate) from the run-off election.  French voters expressed shock at the results of the 1st round voting.  Chirac won in a landslide in the 2nd round.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I put it all under the heading of &quot;be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last French presidential election saw the same phenomenon.  The French always use the 1st round of voting in presidential elections as a protest vote.  Last time however, Le Pen came in 2nd ousting Jospin (the Socialist candidate) from the run-off election.  French voters expressed shock at the results of the 1st round voting.  Chirac won in a landslide in the 2nd round.</p>
<p>I put it all under the heading of &#8220;be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Tom Grey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/29/voting-game/#comment-9263</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I fully agree with the conclusion that voting for TweedleDee while wanting TweedleDum is stupid, most of this post I disagree with.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If one is convinced in Palestine that CORRUPTION is the BIGGEST problem, and that Fatah is corrupt, what is the right vote?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The desired outcome is moderation, less terrorism, less Israeli response/ repression, but especially less corruption.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Palestinian cited wanted a &quot;Fatah&quot; that doesn&#039;t exist.  Every vote is for both the good AND the bad -- but you&#039;re only responsible for the bad if your guy wins!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I voted Libertarian, often -- because I didn&#039;t like Reagan/Bush big gov&#039;t (socially) Reps; nor big gov&#039;t Dems.  Had school voucher supporting Libs gotten enough votes to decide an election, it&#039;s likely the loser would have adopted the &quot;most popular&quot; Lib position.  This idea worked for the Socialist party.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(Why it works much less well for Libs is simple: Socialists favor big gov&#039;t, Libs small gov&#039;t -- both politicians AND news folk naturally like big gov&#039;t out of self interest.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;[By the way, Nader helped Bush win/ Dems lose; but Ross Perot even more helped Clinton win/ Reps lose in 92; and most importantly Wallace (the ex-Dem racist) made Nixon win/ Dems lose in 68.  Most Wallace Dems voted Nixon in 72; many voted Carter in 76; many Reagan in 80; most are now Reps.  It might well be that it&#039;s easier to change your politics thru a third party; revelant to mind changing.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I fully agree with the conclusion that voting for TweedleDee while wanting TweedleDum is stupid, most of this post I disagree with.</p>
<p>If one is convinced in Palestine that CORRUPTION is the BIGGEST problem, and that Fatah is corrupt, what is the right vote?</p>
<p>The desired outcome is moderation, less terrorism, less Israeli response/ repression, but especially less corruption.</p>
<p>The Palestinian cited wanted a &#8220;Fatah&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t exist.  Every vote is for both the good AND the bad &#8212; but you&#8217;re only responsible for the bad if your guy wins!</p>
<p>I voted Libertarian, often &#8212; because I didn&#8217;t like Reagan/Bush big gov&#8217;t (socially) Reps; nor big gov&#8217;t Dems.  Had school voucher supporting Libs gotten enough votes to decide an election, it&#8217;s likely the loser would have adopted the &#8220;most popular&#8221; Lib position.  This idea worked for the Socialist party.</p>
<p>(Why it works much less well for Libs is simple: Socialists favor big gov&#8217;t, Libs small gov&#8217;t &#8212; both politicians AND news folk naturally like big gov&#8217;t out of self interest.)</p>
<p>[By the way, Nader helped Bush win/ Dems lose; but Ross Perot even more helped Clinton win/ Reps lose in 92; and most importantly Wallace (the ex-Dem racist) made Nixon win/ Dems lose in 68.  Most Wallace Dems voted Nixon in 72; many voted Carter in 76; many Reagan in 80; most are now Reps.  It might well be that it&#8217;s easier to change your politics thru a third party; revelant to mind changing.]</p>
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		By: Promethea		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/29/voting-game/#comment-9264</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ralph Nader voters in the 2000 election should remember that they&#039;re the ones who put in President Bush. If they now have BDS, well that&#039;s too bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ralph Nader voters in the 2000 election should remember that they&#8217;re the ones who put in President Bush. If they now have BDS, well that&#8217;s too bad.</p>
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		By: terrye		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/29/voting-game/#comment-9265</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If that is true, then the reign of Hamas should be short lived.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But you are right, refusing to vote or voting not out of conviction but to just send a message is self defeating and ultimately dishonest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that is true, then the reign of Hamas should be short lived.</p>
<p>But you are right, refusing to vote or voting not out of conviction but to just send a message is self defeating and ultimately dishonest.</p>
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