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		By: Jamie Young		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8856</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&gt;&gt;How appropriate do you think the film would be?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#039;t know what you mean by &#039;appropriate&#039;, but there are no scenes depicting atrocities during the Holocaust, if that&#039;s what you mean.  Nor does the film glorify the Nazis.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, it is set during the Battle of Berlin and is therefore very harrowing.  It&#039;s not a film to watch for entertainment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>How appropriate do you think the film would be?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you mean by &#8216;appropriate&#8217;, but there are no scenes depicting atrocities during the Holocaust, if that&#8217;s what you mean.  Nor does the film glorify the Nazis.</p>
<p>However, it is set during the Battle of Berlin and is therefore very harrowing.  It&#8217;s not a film to watch for entertainment.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a different perspective on True Believers than Eric Hoffer&#039;s. And it is even more dangerous and deadly than the fanaticism definition.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;On the contrary Democracies produce even more true believers than totalitarianism has. The Democrats and the protection of free speech, allows the creation of ideologies, manifold in number, that holds many people in their thrall.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It just happens that the most powerful of ideologies acquire the most followers in a democracy.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Democracies focus on allowing people to believe what they want. Totalitarianism focuses on making people obey.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;So it is quite untrue that Democracies have zilch use for true believers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a different perspective on True Believers than Eric Hoffer&#8217;s. And it is even more dangerous and deadly than the fanaticism definition.</p>
<p>On the contrary Democracies produce even more true believers than totalitarianism has. The Democrats and the protection of free speech, allows the creation of ideologies, manifold in number, that holds many people in their thrall.</p>
<p>It just happens that the most powerful of ideologies acquire the most followers in a democracy.</p>
<p>Democracies focus on allowing people to believe what they want. Totalitarianism focuses on making people obey.</p>
<p>So it is quite untrue that Democracies have zilch use for true believers.</p>
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		By: English Professor		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8858</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[English Professor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very interesting story--I too look forward to Part II.  The comments also reminded me that I had intended to rent _Downfall_, so I should do that now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;To those who have seen the film:  family members of the person with whom I normally watch movies were killed in the Holocaust.  That person didn&#039;t know them, but does carry the weight of family history.  How appropriate do you think the film would be?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting story&#8211;I too look forward to Part II.  The comments also reminded me that I had intended to rent _Downfall_, so I should do that now.</p>
<p>To those who have seen the film:  family members of the person with whom I normally watch movies were killed in the Holocaust.  That person didn&#8217;t know them, but does carry the weight of family history.  How appropriate do you think the film would be?</p>
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		By: David Thomson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8859</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Thomson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“David Thompson: by that token, Goebbels himself was a true unbeliever. He seems to have believed in only one thing, quite consistently: power.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It is my guess is that Hitler’s true believers never numbered over ten percent. Every totalitarian movement has its cynics who seek only power.  The former, however, are the ones who will take care of the violence.  They are less squeamish about torturing and murdering others.  A Stalin, Mao, or Osama bin Ladin is powerless without the true believer segment of their respective organizations.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Democracies have zilch use for the true believer mentality.  These political entities are all about improving life in the here and now.  True believers gravitate solely toward movements that are highly nihilistic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“David Thompson: by that token, Goebbels himself was a true unbeliever. He seems to have believed in only one thing, quite consistently: power.”</p>
<p>It is my guess is that Hitler’s true believers never numbered over ten percent. Every totalitarian movement has its cynics who seek only power.  The former, however, are the ones who will take care of the violence.  They are less squeamish about torturing and murdering others.  A Stalin, Mao, or Osama bin Ladin is powerless without the true believer segment of their respective organizations.  </p>
<p>Democracies have zilch use for the true believer mentality.  These political entities are all about improving life in the here and now.  True believers gravitate solely toward movements that are highly nihilistic.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8860</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[David Thompson: by that token, Goebbels himself was a true &lt;I&gt;unbeliever&lt;/I&gt;.  He seems to have believed in only one thing, quite consistently: power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Thompson: by that token, Goebbels himself was a true <i>unbeliever</i>.  He seems to have believed in only one thing, quite consistently: power.</p>
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		By: David Thomson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Thomson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“The beliefs themselves were secondary at best.”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The true believer is “a guilt-ridden hitchhiker who thumbs a ride on every cause from Christianity to Communism.  He’s a fanatic, needing a Stalin (or a Christ) to worship and die for.” &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;---Eric Hoffer&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The True Believer&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;Corinna Harfouch&#039;s performance as Magda Goebbels in the movie Downfall (2004, now on DVD) is one of the most compelling I&#039;ve ever seen&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I agree. It&#039;s a superb movie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The beliefs themselves were secondary at best.”</p>
<p>The true believer is “a guilt-ridden hitchhiker who thumbs a ride on every cause from Christianity to Communism.  He’s a fanatic, needing a Stalin (or a Christ) to worship and die for.” </p>
<p>&#8212;Eric Hoffer</p>
<p>The True Believer</p>
<p>&#8220;Corinna Harfouch&#8217;s performance as Magda Goebbels in the movie Downfall (2004, now on DVD) is one of the most compelling I&#8217;ve ever seen&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. It&#8217;s a superb movie.</p>
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		By: Jamie Young		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8862</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jamie Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Slightly off-topic:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Corinna Harfouch&#039;s performance as Magda Goebbels in the movie Downfall (2004, now on DVD) is one of the most compelling I&#039;ve ever seen.  It&#039;s a subtitled film, but I recommend it without hestitation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off-topic:</p>
<p>Corinna Harfouch&#8217;s performance as Magda Goebbels in the movie Downfall (2004, now on DVD) is one of the most compelling I&#8217;ve ever seen.  It&#8217;s a subtitled film, but I recommend it without hestitation.</p>
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		By: Goesh		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[- magda&#039;s compliance reminds me of the tacit endorsement of wives married to child molestors/abusers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211; magda&#8217;s compliance reminds me of the tacit endorsement of wives married to child molestors/abusers</p>
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		By: benning		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2006/01/19/magda-goebbels-heart-of-darkness-part/#comment-8864</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[paul: Do you think that could be a byproduct of all the pomp, ritual, and pageantry that the Nazis used?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Surely it wasn&#039;t the philosophy. Even at &lt;I&gt;its&lt;/I&gt; height, the Soviet Union&#039;s ruling Communists were but a tiny minority of its citizens. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;neo: I went through a phase where I read about WWII all the time. Magda was, and is, a minor character in the drama. But she was very important to Goebbels. Imagine the result had she realized - truly grasped - what a horror Nazism was and took the children and fled the country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paul: Do you think that could be a byproduct of all the pomp, ritual, and pageantry that the Nazis used?</p>
<p>Surely it wasn&#8217;t the philosophy. Even at <i>its</i> height, the Soviet Union&#8217;s ruling Communists were but a tiny minority of its citizens. </p>
<p>neo: I went through a phase where I read about WWII all the time. Magda was, and is, a minor character in the drama. But she was very important to Goebbels. Imagine the result had she realized &#8211; truly grasped &#8211; what a horror Nazism was and took the children and fled the country.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Third Reich still fascinates a lot of people regardless of one&#039;s feeling towards the Nazis and their brutality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Third Reich still fascinates a lot of people regardless of one&#8217;s feeling towards the Nazis and their brutality.</p>
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