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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6823</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are not enough Native Americans in Jenson&#039;s department.&lt;BR/&gt;He should quit to open up a slot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are not enough Native Americans in Jenson&#8217;s department.<br />He should quit to open up a slot.</p>
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		By: PatCA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6824</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s also my favorite holiday.  Thanks for putting it so well into words!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And brining is the answer for a perfect moist turkey.  The one we did this year was sensational!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also my favorite holiday.  Thanks for putting it so well into words!</p>
<p>And brining is the answer for a perfect moist turkey.  The one we did this year was sensational!</p>
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		By: TmjUtah		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6825</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I give thanks every day.  Conscsiously.  If there&#039;s anything I need to own up to with either God or my fellow man, I go to great lengths to get that done, too.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If there were something inherently evil about being descended from Old Dead European White Males (well, except for the Sioux)I might consider atoning for it.  There&#039;s not, so I don&#039;t.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In a different universe, Spain or France might have established Jamestown, and then where would we have been?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I believe our accomplishments such as citizen sovereignty (however contentious and sometimes frustrating), establishing constitutional republicanism that works, our history in the ongoing march toward embracing  &quot;all men (and women) are created equal&quot;, and not least the several hundred thousand dead Americans planted in fields across the planet in payment for our and other&#039;s freedoms moot any need for some sort of hair shirted existence.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I hope everyone had reason to give thanks yesterday. I know I did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I give thanks every day.  Conscsiously.  If there&#8217;s anything I need to own up to with either God or my fellow man, I go to great lengths to get that done, too.</p>
<p>If there were something inherently evil about being descended from Old Dead European White Males (well, except for the Sioux)I might consider atoning for it.  There&#8217;s not, so I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>In a different universe, Spain or France might have established Jamestown, and then where would we have been?</p>
<p>I believe our accomplishments such as citizen sovereignty (however contentious and sometimes frustrating), establishing constitutional republicanism that works, our history in the ongoing march toward embracing  &#8220;all men (and women) are created equal&#8221;, and not least the several hundred thousand dead Americans planted in fields across the planet in payment for our and other&#8217;s freedoms moot any need for some sort of hair shirted existence.</p>
<p>I hope everyone had reason to give thanks yesterday. I know I did.</p>
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		By: Nikolaides		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6826</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a fine idea for everyone to observe a day of atonement-- but such a day ought to consist of genuine reflection and self-searching. Properly observed, Thanksgiving could almost be that day. There is something about sincerely reminding ourselves to recognize the blessings in our lives that inspires an appreciative humility. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But to strip Thanksgiving of that grace and turn it into just another opportunity for reflexive, nasty bashing of political opponents betrays such a crabbed, wretched, bitter, and sad attitude that I could hardly bear to read to the end of the description of this Jenson&#039;s idea -- let alone go look it up on his site. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Pound cake and granny-smith-apple stuffing, on the other hand . . . now &lt;I&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/I&gt; a good idea!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fine idea for everyone to observe a day of atonement&#8211; but such a day ought to consist of genuine reflection and self-searching. Properly observed, Thanksgiving could almost be that day. There is something about sincerely reminding ourselves to recognize the blessings in our lives that inspires an appreciative humility. </p>
<p>But to strip Thanksgiving of that grace and turn it into just another opportunity for reflexive, nasty bashing of political opponents betrays such a crabbed, wretched, bitter, and sad attitude that I could hardly bear to read to the end of the description of this Jenson&#8217;s idea &#8212; let alone go look it up on his site. </p>
<p>Pound cake and granny-smith-apple stuffing, on the other hand . . . now <i>that&#8217;s</i> a good idea!</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6827</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanksgiving was always my mother&#039;s favorite holiday. She cooked and prepared copious amounts of delicious food and we fed everyone. Now that she is gone I have some wonderfull memories of her that are revisited each Thanksgiving. As for a day of atonement every person on the face of the earth should celebrate a day of atonement - Native Americans included. No one is without sin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanksgiving was always my mother&#8217;s favorite holiday. She cooked and prepared copious amounts of delicious food and we fed everyone. Now that she is gone I have some wonderfull memories of her that are revisited each Thanksgiving. As for a day of atonement every person on the face of the earth should celebrate a day of atonement &#8211; Native Americans included. No one is without sin.</p>
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		By: strcpy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6828</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What do I have to attone for? There are a handfull of things I regret doing to some individuals but I haven&#039;t supported or done anything on a national level that needs atonement.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or do I have a attonement for my race (I&#039;m mostly German and some Cherokee Indian)? So not only do I fail to see why I should try and attone for something I didn&#039;t do or like but neither of my racial backgrounds did anything to you or those groups (the german end moved over before WWII and fought against the Nazi&#039;s). Maybe being born in this country is somehow a sin? Don&#039;t know about that, those &quot;indeginous people&quot; were born here too so are they atoning for thierselfs against thierselfs (and since I am part of them do I get a free pass)? And what about other minorities and emmigrants?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Eh, maybe if we were all one single race and all thought what our ancestors did was great then I would agree. Otherwise it seems pretty darn racists to believe what you wrote.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I have to attone for? There are a handfull of things I regret doing to some individuals but I haven&#8217;t supported or done anything on a national level that needs atonement.</p>
<p>Or do I have a attonement for my race (I&#8217;m mostly German and some Cherokee Indian)? So not only do I fail to see why I should try and attone for something I didn&#8217;t do or like but neither of my racial backgrounds did anything to you or those groups (the german end moved over before WWII and fought against the Nazi&#8217;s). Maybe being born in this country is somehow a sin? Don&#8217;t know about that, those &#8220;indeginous people&#8221; were born here too so are they atoning for thierselfs against thierselfs (and since I am part of them do I get a free pass)? And what about other minorities and emmigrants?</p>
<p>Eh, maybe if we were all one single race and all thought what our ancestors did was great then I would agree. Otherwise it seems pretty darn racists to believe what you wrote.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6829</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that whenever someone proposes a new day of atonement or other breast-beating, it&#039;s someone else&#039;s sins they are thinking about.  I think the original Jewish model for such exercises is a bit healthier.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If Jenson wishes to start such a custom, reflecting first on his own sins of injustice, he might persuade some to join him.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;And no, I don&#039;t mean &quot;I&#039;m sorry, I should never have let those others get away with it.&quot;  What cheaply-bought sanctimony.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that whenever someone proposes a new day of atonement or other breast-beating, it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s sins they are thinking about.  I think the original Jewish model for such exercises is a bit healthier.</p>
<p>If Jenson wishes to start such a custom, reflecting first on his own sins of injustice, he might persuade some to join him.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t mean &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, I should never have let those others get away with it.&#8221;  What cheaply-bought sanctimony.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6830</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Day of Atonement, would that include flogging ourselves with Jenson&#039;s &#039;die whitey&#039; whip?  Day of Mourning since 1970, do they mark it with a little LSD?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What fun, can&#039;t wait. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In the meantime, I&#039;m thankful today for the US Armed Forces comprised of every American make and model who are away from home fighting all so that I may live peacefully in my own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Day of Atonement, would that include flogging ourselves with Jenson&#8217;s &#8216;die whitey&#8217; whip?  Day of Mourning since 1970, do they mark it with a little LSD?</p>
<p>What fun, can&#8217;t wait. </p>
<p>In the meantime, I&#8217;m thankful today for the US Armed Forces comprised of every American make and model who are away from home fighting all so that I may live peacefully in my own.</p>
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		By: Brad		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6831</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Professor Robert Jenson has a different take on T-day:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One indication of moral progress in the United States would be the replacement of Thanksgiving Day and its self-indulgent family feasting with a National Day of Atonement accompanied by a self-reflective collective fasting.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In fact, indigenous people have offered such a model; since 1970 they have marked the fourth Thursday of November as a Day of Mourning in a spiritual/political ceremony on Coles Hill overlooking Plymouth Rock, Massachusetts, one of the early sites of the European invasion of the Americas.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Not only is the thought of such a change in this white-supremacist holiday impossible to imagine, but the very mention of the idea sends most Americans into apoplectic fits -- which speaks volumes about our historical hypocrisy and its relation to the contemporary politics of empire in the United States.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A link from MM&#039;s blog]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Robert Jenson has a different take on T-day:</p>
<p>One indication of moral progress in the United States would be the replacement of Thanksgiving Day and its self-indulgent family feasting with a National Day of Atonement accompanied by a self-reflective collective fasting.</p>
<p>In fact, indigenous people have offered such a model; since 1970 they have marked the fourth Thursday of November as a Day of Mourning in a spiritual/political ceremony on Coles Hill overlooking Plymouth Rock, Massachusetts, one of the early sites of the European invasion of the Americas.  </p>
<p>Not only is the thought of such a change in this white-supremacist holiday impossible to imagine, but the very mention of the idea sends most Americans into apoplectic fits &#8212; which speaks volumes about our historical hypocrisy and its relation to the contemporary politics of empire in the United States.  </p>
<p>A link from MM&#8217;s blog</p>
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		By: ExPreacherMan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/11/24/thankful-for-thanksgiving/#comment-6832</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great Thanksgiving post.. But all you folks up in Yankee land, look and weep at our typical hot Thanksgiving weather. This is my hidden web page for Thanksgiving, 2002 at: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF=&quot;http://weaverclan.com/thanksgv.htm&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;WeaverClan&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; The last picture shows how to REALLY cook a turkey!!! And we also fried some lettuce leaves for good measure. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Everyone -- have a great Thanksgiving!!! Be thankful we have the freedom to express ourselves as we wish -- without Big Brother and/or the UN looking over our shoulder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Thanksgiving post.. But all you folks up in Yankee land, look and weep at our typical hot Thanksgiving weather. This is my hidden web page for Thanksgiving, 2002 at: <br /><a HREF="http://weaverclan.com/thanksgv.htm" REL="nofollow"><br />WeaverClan</a><br /> The last picture shows how to REALLY cook a turkey!!! And we also fried some lettuce leaves for good measure. </p>
<p>Everyone &#8212; have a great Thanksgiving!!! Be thankful we have the freedom to express ourselves as we wish &#8212; without Big Brother and/or the UN looking over our shoulder.</p>
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