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		By: Dale St. Clair		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5836</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TmjUtah: &lt;I&gt; The Democrats are laughable... but the continuing incapacity for the Republicans to actually govern in the manner they were elected to do is beginning to grate.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There’s an assumption in the above statement that ain’t necessarily so. The assumption is that Republicans are elected because they are far to the right in the political spectrum. While that could be true with elective offices here &amp; there at the local &amp; state level I don’t believe it applies to the office of President. I believe it could be argued that Republican Presidential candidates are successful to the extent that they gravitate toward the center. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I believe my theory applies to Democratic candidates as well. And it could be that perception of whoever is in the Whitehouse as leaning toward the fringe at either end of the spectrum leads to second term election ‘corrections.’ &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don’t think Bush was elected to overturn Roe v. Wade despite the fervent wishes of some who voted for him. Didn’t he promise only to nominate SCOTUS candidates who would not legislate from the bench? Miers certainly fit that description.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I agree that the Democrats can be funny but so can Republicans. It was real funny when they vilified Bill Clinton for sexual activity — as if none of them were equally as guilty. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I see only one viable Presidential candidate that the Democrats could produce: Senator Clinton. If she were nominated the Republicans should be very afraid because the Clintons are possibly the best campaigners that this country has ever produced. Sexual hi-jinks aside, they are very much a team. Senator Clinton has already moved toward the center &amp; I believe if she garnered the nomination, thereby slipping past the fringe in her party, she would move further towards the middle in the subsequent campaign. Seeya ‘round the voting booth, TmjUtah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TmjUtah: <i> The Democrats are laughable&#8230; but the continuing incapacity for the Republicans to actually govern in the manner they were elected to do is beginning to grate.</i></p>
<p>There’s an assumption in the above statement that ain’t necessarily so. The assumption is that Republicans are elected because they are far to the right in the political spectrum. While that could be true with elective offices here &#038; there at the local &#038; state level I don’t believe it applies to the office of President. I believe it could be argued that Republican Presidential candidates are successful to the extent that they gravitate toward the center. </p>
<p>I believe my theory applies to Democratic candidates as well. And it could be that perception of whoever is in the Whitehouse as leaning toward the fringe at either end of the spectrum leads to second term election ‘corrections.’ </p>
<p>I don’t think Bush was elected to overturn Roe v. Wade despite the fervent wishes of some who voted for him. Didn’t he promise only to nominate SCOTUS candidates who would not legislate from the bench? Miers certainly fit that description.</p>
<p>I agree that the Democrats can be funny but so can Republicans. It was real funny when they vilified Bill Clinton for sexual activity — as if none of them were equally as guilty. </p>
<p>I see only one viable Presidential candidate that the Democrats could produce: Senator Clinton. If she were nominated the Republicans should be very afraid because the Clintons are possibly the best campaigners that this country has ever produced. Sexual hi-jinks aside, they are very much a team. Senator Clinton has already moved toward the center &#038; I believe if she garnered the nomination, thereby slipping past the fringe in her party, she would move further towards the middle in the subsequent campaign. Seeya ‘round the voting booth, TmjUtah.</p>
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		By: TmjUtah		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5837</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[dragonflies -&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;I can&#039;t see his next nominee getting past the inevitable filibuster in the Senate.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Republican Senate caucus is a &lt;I&gt;majority&lt;/I&gt;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The same pressure brought to bear on the administration for nominating a person unsupported by the base is right there to support the nomination of a fit jurist.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Please go read VD Hanson&#039;s latest at NRO.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I see nothing on any horizon that the Democrats can offer to garner my support.  But I won&#039;t put much more into  a party I have strongly supported, only to watch them morph into something very like the weasels I elected them to replace. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That sentiment is exactly what is spreading across the &quot;base&quot; (for want of a better word) and the Republicans had better give a long hard think to where they intend to be a few years from now.  They win by convincing people to vote &lt;I&gt;for&lt;/I&gt; something... and then piddle away the trust they were handed just to keep a status office and membership in the D.C. club.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The Democrats are laughable... but the continuing incapacity for the Republicans to actually govern in the manner they were elected to do is beginning to grate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dragonflies &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t see his next nominee getting past the inevitable filibuster in the Senate.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Republican Senate caucus is a <i>majority</i>.</p>
<p>The same pressure brought to bear on the administration for nominating a person unsupported by the base is right there to support the nomination of a fit jurist.</p>
<p>Please go read VD Hanson&#8217;s latest at NRO.</p>
<p>I see nothing on any horizon that the Democrats can offer to garner my support.  But I won&#8217;t put much more into  a party I have strongly supported, only to watch them morph into something very like the weasels I elected them to replace. </p>
<p>That sentiment is exactly what is spreading across the &#8220;base&#8221; (for want of a better word) and the Republicans had better give a long hard think to where they intend to be a few years from now.  They win by convincing people to vote <i>for</i> something&#8230; and then piddle away the trust they were handed just to keep a status office and membership in the D.C. club.</p>
<p>The Democrats are laughable&#8230; but the continuing incapacity for the Republicans to actually govern in the manner they were elected to do is beginning to grate.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5838</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some people put their faith in &quot;power struggles&quot; and deadlocks that cause horrendous civilian casualties in both Disaster Relief and counter-terrorism operations, to protect themselves from dictators.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Americans believe in the 2nd Ammendment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That&#039;s the difference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people put their faith in &#8220;power struggles&#8221; and deadlocks that cause horrendous civilian casualties in both Disaster Relief and counter-terrorism operations, to protect themselves from dictators.</p>
<p>Americans believe in the 2nd Ammendment.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the difference.</p>
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		By: Dale St. Clair		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5839</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gee, it turns out I didn’t vote for Bush. I actually voted for Krauthammer(if ever a name fit a pundit), Kristol, Limbaugh &amp; a bunch of zealots who have influential blogs that want to impose their will over me. Silly me to think otherwise. Maybe I’ll waste my vote on the opposing candidate next time just to get some variety in the types of churlishness I’ll be forced to witness. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For every 2 Memogates &amp; Condi Rice photo corrections there will be 1 Miers assassination. Nope, the blogs ain’t no panacea, that’s for sure, ‘cause their medicine sometimes causes nausea. And doc, these 2-edged swords are killing my neck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, it turns out I didn’t vote for Bush. I actually voted for Krauthammer(if ever a name fit a pundit), Kristol, Limbaugh &#038; a bunch of zealots who have influential blogs that want to impose their will over me. Silly me to think otherwise. Maybe I’ll waste my vote on the opposing candidate next time just to get some variety in the types of churlishness I’ll be forced to witness. </p>
<p>For every 2 Memogates &#038; Condi Rice photo corrections there will be 1 Miers assassination. Nope, the blogs ain’t no panacea, that’s for sure, ‘cause their medicine sometimes causes nausea. And doc, these 2-edged swords are killing my neck.</p>
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		By: tequilamockingbird		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5840</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Damn!  I meant without a majority, not without a plurality.  Itchy &quot;publish&quot; finger again.  Sorry.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;tequilamockingbird]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn!  I meant without a majority, not without a plurality.  Itchy &#8220;publish&#8221; finger again.  Sorry.</p>
<p>tequilamockingbird</p>
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		By: tequilamockingbird		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5841</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes to John Moulder and neo-neocon:  a plague on both their houses.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I believe in the inherent strength of a multi-party system.  It&#039;s unlikely to result in a majority government, which can act as a virtual dictatorship for the length of its term.  A party governing without a plurality can&#039;t impose its will; it has to work to achieve consensus.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It ain&#039;t gonna happen, of course.  Too bad.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;tequilamockingbird]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to John Moulder and neo-neocon:  a plague on both their houses.</p>
<p>I believe in the inherent strength of a multi-party system.  It&#8217;s unlikely to result in a majority government, which can act as a virtual dictatorship for the length of its term.  A party governing without a plurality can&#8217;t impose its will; it has to work to achieve consensus.</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t gonna happen, of course.  Too bad.</p>
<p>tequilamockingbird</p>
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		By: John Moreschi		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5842</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On the contrary, it seems to me that whoever is nominated now will be called a right wing extremist to satisfy the right wing extremists who stopped Miers.  Next comes the filibuster, and then the McCain gang of forteen allow the filibuster to stand because the new nominee is successfully labeled as Bush caving in to his radical base.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, Emmett Tyrrell offered up the name of Ted Olson, and I think he could get past the filibuster and probably be confirmed.  I would like to see him get it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the contrary, it seems to me that whoever is nominated now will be called a right wing extremist to satisfy the right wing extremists who stopped Miers.  Next comes the filibuster, and then the McCain gang of forteen allow the filibuster to stand because the new nominee is successfully labeled as Bush caving in to his radical base.</p>
<p>However, Emmett Tyrrell offered up the name of Ted Olson, and I think he could get past the filibuster and probably be confirmed.  I would like to see him get it.</p>
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		By: camojack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5843</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe, JUST maybe...this was only another version of the old &quot;bait &amp; switch&quot;. So whoever he nominates now will have it easy by comparison...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, JUST maybe&#8230;this was only another version of the old &#8220;bait &#038; switch&#8221;. So whoever he nominates now will have it easy by comparison&#8230;</p>
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		By: Holmes		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5844</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure a lot of character assassination took place.  There was certainly a lot of qualification assassination.  A hearing would have been embarassing and a real defeat. She doesn&#039;t know her way around Constitutional law (not that she would be allowed to talk about her Consitutional views as to specific issues anyway. I&#039;m not sure how being intelligently evasive of Senators&#039; questions makes for a valid selection process. &quot;Hey, wow, she can really avoid answering issues and can muddy the waters! She&#039;ll fill O&#039;Connor&#039;s shoes perfectly!&quot;). Now everyone can just get mad at the crazy right-wingers who tossed sweet Harriet overboard and Bush can nominate a person with the established track record and experience necessary for a lifetime appointment to our Supreme Legislature. Er, Court.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure a lot of character assassination took place.  There was certainly a lot of qualification assassination.  A hearing would have been embarassing and a real defeat. She doesn&#8217;t know her way around Constitutional law (not that she would be allowed to talk about her Consitutional views as to specific issues anyway. I&#8217;m not sure how being intelligently evasive of Senators&#8217; questions makes for a valid selection process. &#8220;Hey, wow, she can really avoid answering issues and can muddy the waters! She&#8217;ll fill O&#8217;Connor&#8217;s shoes perfectly!&#8221;). Now everyone can just get mad at the crazy right-wingers who tossed sweet Harriet overboard and Bush can nominate a person with the established track record and experience necessary for a lifetime appointment to our Supreme Legislature. Er, Court.</p>
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		By: thedragonflies		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/27/miered-no-more/#comment-5845</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It just makes me sad that this woman was put in this position.  I think Bush hurt himself, and the Reps with this mistake.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Althogh I think that the Right essentially Borked her, she also failed to win the nomination by not performing well in the one on one talks with the Senators.  Had she excelled there, the long knives would have been sheathed.  But none that spoke with her came out for her, they all hedged and ducked.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bush&#039;s strength was supposed to be in his ability to see into people and pick them well.  He missed here, and hurt his friend as well as himself.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I can&#039;t see his next nominee getting past the inevitable filibuster in the Senate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just makes me sad that this woman was put in this position.  I think Bush hurt himself, and the Reps with this mistake.  </p>
<p>Althogh I think that the Right essentially Borked her, she also failed to win the nomination by not performing well in the one on one talks with the Senators.  Had she excelled there, the long knives would have been sheathed.  But none that spoke with her came out for her, they all hedged and ducked.  </p>
<p>Bush&#8217;s strength was supposed to be in his ability to see into people and pick them well.  He missed here, and hurt his friend as well as himself.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t see his next nominee getting past the inevitable filibuster in the Senate.</p>
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