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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/14/next-year-i-suppose-hell-get-peace/#comment-5257</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Annual American subsidy of European defense,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;4% of U.S. GDP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annual American subsidy of European defense,</p>
<p>4% of U.S. GDP.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/14/next-year-i-suppose-hell-get-peace/#comment-5258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;And all the dead air is alive&lt;BR/&gt;With the smell of America&#039;s God.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Right on.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Annual American military budget = $400 billion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And all the dead air is alive<br />With the smell of America&#8217;s God.</i></p>
<p>Right on.</p>
<p>Annual American military budget = $400 billion.</p>
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		By: Michael B		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, re the Zawahiri letter again, an &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051014/ts_nm/iraq_usa_letter_dc_1&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;update&lt;/A&gt; wherein some are doubting its authenticity, at least in terms of its author being Zawahiri.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Though too, via Michael Barone&#039;s blog, the indications noted above are reconfirmed, re the MSM &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.mrc.org/press/2005/press20051013.asp&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt; and re the emerging Iraqi army &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20051013-084116-5500r.htm&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, re the Zawahiri letter again, an <a HREF="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051014/ts_nm/iraq_usa_letter_dc_1" REL="nofollow">update</a> wherein some are doubting its authenticity, at least in terms of its author being Zawahiri.</p>
<p>Though too, via Michael Barone&#8217;s blog, the indications noted above are reconfirmed, re the MSM <a HREF="http://www.mrc.org/press/2005/press20051013.asp" REL="nofollow">here</a> and re the emerging Iraqi army <a HREF="http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20051013-084116-5500r.htm" REL="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an actor the problem with Pinter&#039;s plays is that one cannot act &#039;pauses&#039;.  Try acting his work day after day, week and week, year after years, his contrived dialogue creates a mechanicalized engine which needs alcohol just to drive the play to the end,  he is dead boring.  Film actors can get away with all sorts of contrived writing because of the camera, of endless angles and re-takes, and of editing but man, having to act &#039;pauses&#039; live on stage over and over and over again is a killer. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I, too, question why so many artists, ie writers, painters, actors, are left-leaning towards the road to serfdom when that ideology is the very thing which destroys creative expression.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have devoted the past decade to theater and acting here in NYC but now I see that I exist in a state of complete frustration (downright disgust) with the vicious groupthink mentality which prevails in the artistic community. I can no longer identify with what is now hollow theater controlled by self-absorbed vulgar artists.  Perhaps the artist has been for so long idolized by the audience they now believe themselves superior to the audience and feel obliged to ridicule and mock with vulgar insanity those they can emotionally manipulate.  Most actors are so hungry for stardom they will abandon any sense of humanity in order to achieve such worthless notoriety,  they&#039;ll just follow along no matter how revolting is the message, the cause or belief.&lt;BR/&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;After my own self-reflection into what I was involved with I had no choice but to leave that scene. I haven&#039;t abandoned my innate desire to create, I abandoned those who tried to maintain absolute control over creativity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an actor the problem with Pinter&#8217;s plays is that one cannot act &#8216;pauses&#8217;.  Try acting his work day after day, week and week, year after years, his contrived dialogue creates a mechanicalized engine which needs alcohol just to drive the play to the end,  he is dead boring.  Film actors can get away with all sorts of contrived writing because of the camera, of endless angles and re-takes, and of editing but man, having to act &#8216;pauses&#8217; live on stage over and over and over again is a killer. </p>
<p>I, too, question why so many artists, ie writers, painters, actors, are left-leaning towards the road to serfdom when that ideology is the very thing which destroys creative expression.  </p>
<p>I have devoted the past decade to theater and acting here in NYC but now I see that I exist in a state of complete frustration (downright disgust) with the vicious groupthink mentality which prevails in the artistic community. I can no longer identify with what is now hollow theater controlled by self-absorbed vulgar artists.  Perhaps the artist has been for so long idolized by the audience they now believe themselves superior to the audience and feel obliged to ridicule and mock with vulgar insanity those they can emotionally manipulate.  Most actors are so hungry for stardom they will abandon any sense of humanity in order to achieve such worthless notoriety,  they&#8217;ll just follow along no matter how revolting is the message, the cause or belief.</p>
<p>After my own self-reflection into what I was involved with I had no choice but to leave that scene. I haven&#8217;t abandoned my innate desire to create, I abandoned those who tried to maintain absolute control over creativity.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pinter&#039;s poetry isn&#039;t exactly what I would call the result of literary genius, either.  More the ranting of an agry old leftist who is divorced from reality.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It&#039;s a shame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pinter&#8217;s poetry isn&#8217;t exactly what I would call the result of literary genius, either.  More the ranting of an agry old leftist who is divorced from reality.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/14/next-year-i-suppose-hell-get-peace/#comment-5262</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For some reason I&#039;m a lot more interested (Yes a lot is two words) in the composition and stories of the judging panel that gives out these &quot;Nobel Prizes&quot; rather than the stories of the recipients themselves.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Go figure...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I&#8217;m a lot more interested (Yes a lot is two words) in the composition and stories of the judging panel that gives out these &#8220;Nobel Prizes&#8221; rather than the stories of the recipients themselves.</p>
<p>Go figure&#8230;</p>
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		By: SteveR		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/10/14/next-year-i-suppose-hell-get-peace/#comment-5263</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, actually, I think Pinter *deserves* the Nobel literature prize soley for inspiring my favorite Seinfeld episode, &quot;The Betrayal,&quot; - the one that ran backwards. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, I&#039;ve never seen Pinter&#039;s &quot;Betrayal&quot;, nor any other Pinter play, nor am I now inclined to do so. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But Pinter&#039;s contribution to Seinfeldian humor should justify the Prize. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BTW, I didn&#039;t realize until someone told me afterwards that the Seinfeld episode got the backwards-running idea from a Pinter play. Then, over the years, as I&#039;ve watched that episode several times in reruns, I&#039;ve picked up more Pinteresque references, i.e., Elain&#039;s Indian ex-boyfriend&#039;s name was Pinter, and the name of the episode itself. Just thinking about it makes me laugh.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Oh well, after all, this year is (once again) the Year of the Inappropriate Nobel Prize Recipients, isn&#039;t it. I mean, how funny is it that ElBaradei and the IAEA wins the Peace prize, after both N.K. and Iraq were bomb-making right under their noses.... One might say, in a post-Katerinesque manner, &quot;Mo&#039;, you&#039;re doin&#039; a heck of a job!&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Best regards,&lt;BR/&gt;SteveR]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, actually, I think Pinter *deserves* the Nobel literature prize soley for inspiring my favorite Seinfeld episode, &#8220;The Betrayal,&#8221; &#8211; the one that ran backwards. </p>
<p>Actually, I&#8217;ve never seen Pinter&#8217;s &#8220;Betrayal&#8221;, nor any other Pinter play, nor am I now inclined to do so. </p>
<p>But Pinter&#8217;s contribution to Seinfeldian humor should justify the Prize. </p>
<p>BTW, I didn&#8217;t realize until someone told me afterwards that the Seinfeld episode got the backwards-running idea from a Pinter play. Then, over the years, as I&#8217;ve watched that episode several times in reruns, I&#8217;ve picked up more Pinteresque references, i.e., Elain&#8217;s Indian ex-boyfriend&#8217;s name was Pinter, and the name of the episode itself. Just thinking about it makes me laugh.</p>
<p>Oh well, after all, this year is (once again) the Year of the Inappropriate Nobel Prize Recipients, isn&#8217;t it. I mean, how funny is it that ElBaradei and the IAEA wins the Peace prize, after both N.K. and Iraq were bomb-making right under their noses&#8230;. One might say, in a post-Katerinesque manner, &#8220;Mo&#8217;, you&#8217;re doin&#8217; a heck of a job!&#8221; </p>
<p>Best regards,<br />SteveR</p>
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		By: fred		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would contrast Pinter&#039;s comments on Iraq -- why else did he get the Nobel Prize for Literature at this time (or Jimmy Carter the &quot;Peace Prize?&quot;) -- with this editorial (link) on Iraq from the Bangkok Post (via Roger L Simon&#039;s website)&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/14Oct2005_news20.php&lt;BR/&gt;The Bangkok Post gets it, the New York Times is lost.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would contrast Pinter&#8217;s comments on Iraq &#8212; why else did he get the Nobel Prize for Literature at this time (or Jimmy Carter the &#8220;Peace Prize?&#8221;) &#8212; with this editorial (link) on Iraq from the Bangkok Post (via Roger L Simon&#8217;s website)<br /><a href="http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/14Oct2005_news20.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bangkokpost.com/News/14Oct2005_news20.php</a><br />The Bangkok Post gets it, the New York Times is lost.</p>
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		By: Assistant Village Idiot		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bunnies, I recommend reading New Criterion, either online or on dead tree.  It is an art and culture magazine of quite different orientation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your next project is to not laugh at a poetry reading while going with someone else who also knows it&#039;s tripe.  Much harder, but I wish you luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunnies, I recommend reading New Criterion, either online or on dead tree.  It is an art and culture magazine of quite different orientation.</p>
<p>Your next project is to not laugh at a poetry reading while going with someone else who also knows it&#8217;s tripe.  Much harder, but I wish you luck.</p>
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		By: erasmus		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bunnies&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, a good portion of contemporary poetry is not much above the stuff written over unrinals in men&#039;s rooms. Not much like T.S. Eliot. But there still are &quot;real&quot; poets around--try Wilbur, Ashbury, Merrill or Donald Hall. But I&#039;m not optimistic. As in other areas of our culture, the lowest common denominator--read: junk--will win out.&lt;BR/&gt;Back to to Yeats, then, laddies and lassies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bunnies</p>
<p>Yes, a good portion of contemporary poetry is not much above the stuff written over unrinals in men&#8217;s rooms. Not much like T.S. Eliot. But there still are &#8220;real&#8221; poets around&#8211;try Wilbur, Ashbury, Merrill or Donald Hall. But I&#8217;m not optimistic. As in other areas of our culture, the lowest common denominator&#8211;read: junk&#8211;will win out.<br />Back to to Yeats, then, laddies and lassies.</p>
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