Comments on: Yeah, and Goebbels was the “spiritual leader” of the Nazis

By: Goesh

Goesh — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

There is no satisfying such folks, but I needed to make my feelings known. I recently came across a Sociologist, highly educated, who believes that in Viet Nam, tens of thousands of Vietnamese had their throats slit by US soliders. The only saving grace of such idiocy is that it serves to keep people away from that lunatic fringe. I’m not putting Troutsky in that category – he is in the camp of folks who have not been able to come to grips with their gut-wrenching fear of jihadists. Their angst and anger is directed away from the jihadis because the basis of their fear is the fact that they must believe that all human beings are subject to the laws of reason and rationality. Fault lies with others then when jihadis don’t act with reason and rationality. This has been addressed here before, but this deep fear is in itself a threat and danger.

By: Assistant Village Idiot

Assistant Village Idiot — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

Goesh — I’m not sure you should have taken the bait. Troutsky immediately set up a straw man and accused you of advocating things you did not. Do you now expect him to suddenly see the light of reason because you explained more fully? There’ll be something new to object to…

By: Goesh

Goesh — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

Troutsky, I don’t deem all muslims to be terrorirsts – far from it. I do advocate killing imams that openly advocate terrorism and attacking US forces. I advocate blowing up mosques where messages of terrorism are preached. I advocate crossing borders with cruise missles to blow up safe houses, headquarters and private dwellings of known terrorist leaders. I advocate abducting whenever possible family members of known terrorists and holding them incognito indefinitely. I advocate suspending all Consitutional considerations to known terrorist orgnanizations and individuals. I advocate disarming seriously wounded enemy combatatants and leaving them lay where they fell and not providing them any medical treatment. I advocate no prisoners in firefights, that all armed foes be killed where found on sight, that once they shoulder a weapon it is to the death. I advocate killing them with the same coldness employed against nazis and imperial japanese forces of world war 2. I and my kind are no different then the jihadis in Iraq – I follow the rule of Law as set down by my nation and leaders, just they follow the rule of law set down by al quran and their imams. There is no room for my kind and their kind to co-exist, only one of us can remain standing. History shows that my kind can and does convert their swords to plowshears. Can you say the same of the jihadis? I think not.

By: troutsky

troutsky — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

Goesh wants to “declare total war and use whatever means necessary” in true Nazi fashion.Funny how conflict brings out the totalitarian in you cons.Perhaps if all Muslims were placed in concentration camps, we might have a final solution? He could end up as a spiritual leader like Pat Robertson.

By: Jay

Jay — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

Happy Rosh Hashanah, as well.

AVI up there has a good point about spiritualism. Being a Christian in the west, when I hear of a spiritual leader, my pastor comes to mind first, or maybe a rabbi or priest; basically any figure that has a positive morality attached to it. But that's just conditioning. New Age spiritual leaders are horribly moral-neutral (when their wordlview is distilled, that is), and as we see in numerous fatwahs, they can be horribly amoral as well.

By: Goesh

Goesh — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

I’m sick and tired of the civilized world refusing to declare total war and using whatever means necessary to eradicate the scourge of islamic terrorism.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

Brad: can’t we all just get along :-)?

By: Assistant Village Idiot

Assistant Village Idiot — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

I think your second take was closer than your first. We give “spiritual” a positive cast, but it’s essentially neutral morally. It just sounds as if it is given over to finer thoughts.

How about “the spiritual leader of crazed murderers?” That captures the contrast well, doesn’t it?

By: Brad

Brad — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

This tendency toward stock phrases and descriptors also begs the question: Can't each journalist write in their own voice? Maybe I don't want the answer.

OT

Neo,
I have always enjoyed your posts. But starting Tuesday at 3 we become sworn enemies! (unfortunately I think your nation will prevail)

Brad from Chitown

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000

It was the Jooooos! (Imagine that!) Happy New Year to you all!

There have been irresponsible clerics of many faiths. Father Charles Coughlin, the anti-semitic priest who broadcast his message of hate before the Second World War, is one example.

In the post-9/11 world, Muslim clerics in overwhelming numbers, and with few exceptions, seem to have been happy to spread a message of chauvinism, bigotry and hatred. Islam seems stuck in the Seventh Century. Tragically, the use of force will be necessary to contain its worst excesses for the foreseeable future.