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		By: Kenneth		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3347</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kenneth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is an unfortunate tactic that the Left learned from Communism, which is very strict about party (or just ideological) discipline and uses bullying, personal attacks, and excommunication as tactics.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an unfortunate tactic that the Left learned from Communism, which is very strict about party (or just ideological) discipline and uses bullying, personal attacks, and excommunication as tactics.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3348</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At 11:45 AM, August 12, 2005, David Thomson said... &lt;BR/&gt;...the Left is convinced that terrorism is merely the logical blow back of our allegedly imperialistic policies. ...the Leftists are highly influenced by Marxism....&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, Marx never made a big deal out of imperialism... if anything he though it was good because it would industrialize the less developed areas of the world. Hitler bitched about it a lot, but it called it interference from the &#039;plutocracies&#039; (allegedly with Germany via some kind of Jewish / Capitalist / Anglo conspiracy)...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It didn&#039;t become a leftie issue until the 50s and 60s. By then, it was obvious the plight of the proletariat was getting better (re: they wouldn&#039;t not rise up and fight for them) and they needed new issues to be outraged about...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Its fun reading about lefty progressive history… real eye opener…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 11:45 AM, August 12, 2005, David Thomson said&#8230; <br />&#8230;the Left is convinced that terrorism is merely the logical blow back of our allegedly imperialistic policies. &#8230;the Leftists are highly influenced by Marxism&#8230;.</p>
<p>Actually, Marx never made a big deal out of imperialism&#8230; if anything he though it was good because it would industrialize the less developed areas of the world. Hitler bitched about it a lot, but it called it interference from the &#8216;plutocracies&#8217; (allegedly with Germany via some kind of Jewish / Capitalist / Anglo conspiracy)&#8230;</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t become a leftie issue until the 50s and 60s. By then, it was obvious the plight of the proletariat was getting better (re: they wouldn&#8217;t not rise up and fight for them) and they needed new issues to be outraged about&#8230;</p>
<p>Its fun reading about lefty progressive history… real eye opener…</p>
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		By: Bookworm		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3349</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It was funny to turn to your blog today -- which I did to pick up a link to your blog for a post I was doing -- and to discover that you were posting along parallel lines to mine.  My post, which is &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://bookwormroom.blogspot.com/2005/08/frustrating-conversation.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;, examines the idea that deep biases prevent the Left from being able to review and analyze any facts that are contrary to their dogma.  I also posit that those who have made the journey from liberal to conservative have had some epiphany that&#039;s enabled them to step back from their biases -- and I mentioned your &quot;A Mind is a Difficult Thing to Change&quot; series in connection with my post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was funny to turn to your blog today &#8212; which I did to pick up a link to your blog for a post I was doing &#8212; and to discover that you were posting along parallel lines to mine.  My post, which is <a HREF="http://bookwormroom.blogspot.com/2005/08/frustrating-conversation.html" REL="nofollow">here</a>, examines the idea that deep biases prevent the Left from being able to review and analyze any facts that are contrary to their dogma.  I also posit that those who have made the journey from liberal to conservative have had some epiphany that&#8217;s enabled them to step back from their biases &#8212; and I mentioned your &#8220;A Mind is a Difficult Thing to Change&#8221; series in connection with my post.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3350</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[knoxgirl--I hated linking to Wolcott at all and giving him any hits.  I didn&#039;t explore his page too much when I got there myself, but I&#039;m not surprised that it would contain the sort of stuff you describe.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Another theory I&#039;m floating (and this is a complete guess, since I don&#039;t know much about the guy) is that his attacks on bloggers come from the fact that he sees them as a threat to his own livelihood--  amateurs trying to usurp the pro.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knoxgirl&#8211;I hated linking to Wolcott at all and giving him any hits.  I didn&#8217;t explore his page too much when I got there myself, but I&#8217;m not surprised that it would contain the sort of stuff you describe.  </p>
<p>Another theory I&#8217;m floating (and this is a complete guess, since I don&#8217;t know much about the guy) is that his attacks on bloggers come from the fact that he sees them as a threat to his own livelihood&#8211;  amateurs trying to usurp the pro.</p>
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		By: PatCA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3351</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nick Cohen is the latest apostate.  Our ranks are growing!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kundera also talked about the lure of the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/features/article297542.ece/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grand march of history&lt;/A&gt; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Some of the leftists still need that fix of euphoria that comes from &quot;national liberation&quot; movements, bright flags, camaradery.  Seductive...for a time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Cohen is the latest apostate.  Our ranks are growing!</p>
<p>Kundera also talked about the lure of the <a HREF="http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/features/article297542.ece/" REL="nofollow">grand march of history</a> </p>
<p>Some of the leftists still need that fix of euphoria that comes from &#8220;national liberation&#8221; movements, bright flags, camaradery.  Seductive&#8230;for a time.</p>
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		By: David Thomson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3352</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“..having the notion that terrorism is really in response to capitalism, oil and pax americanaism...”&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Deep in their guts, if not even consciously, the Left is convinced that terrorism is merely the logical blow back of our allegedly imperialistic policies.  The terrorists are victims of capitalist exploitation.  It is therefore foolish to fight these murderers when we should instead remove our foot off their necks. In other words, the Leftists are highly influenced by Marxism.  Unfortunately, one is charged with McCarthism when pointing this out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“..having the notion that terrorism is really in response to capitalism, oil and pax americanaism&#8230;”</p>
<p>Deep in their guts, if not even consciously, the Left is convinced that terrorism is merely the logical blow back of our allegedly imperialistic policies.  The terrorists are victims of capitalist exploitation.  It is therefore foolish to fight these murderers when we should instead remove our foot off their necks. In other words, the Leftists are highly influenced by Marxism.  Unfortunately, one is charged with McCarthism when pointing this out.</p>
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		By: hg wells		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3353</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the first couple definitions of liberal according to dictionary.com&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; * Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. &lt;BR/&gt; * Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I live in San Francisco and my journey since 9-11 has been similar to neo-neocon&#039;s and probably many others reading here. I still consider myself a liberal and by these definitions I qualify.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But the US seems to have gone through the looking glass somewhere in the last decade or so, and the word liberal has been appropriated to mean identification with a very particular, dogmatic, and intolerant political viewpoint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the first couple definitions of liberal according to dictionary.com</p>
<p> * Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. <br /> * Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. </p>
<p>I live in San Francisco and my journey since 9-11 has been similar to neo-neocon&#8217;s and probably many others reading here. I still consider myself a liberal and by these definitions I qualify.</p>
<p>But the US seems to have gone through the looking glass somewhere in the last decade or so, and the word liberal has been appropriated to mean identification with a very particular, dogmatic, and intolerant political viewpoint.</p>
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		By: knoxgirl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3354</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Totten&#039;s post had a link to Wolcott&#039;s blog. I poked around and did some reading... and I truly can&#039;t believe how lame Wolcott&#039;s rantings are. This guy is a paid writer for a major magazine??&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I didn&#039;t expect to agree with the guy, but I certainly didn&#039;t expect there to be strings of vitriol against people like Glenn Reynolds and Roger Simon. I mean, these guys aren&#039;t exactly Rush Limbaugh... Wolcott has the sort of rage toward them you expect to see directed only toward people like, well, the 9/11 hijackers, for example.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Further sad proof, I guess, that there really is no room for diversity of opinion among the left anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totten&#8217;s post had a link to Wolcott&#8217;s blog. I poked around and did some reading&#8230; and I truly can&#8217;t believe how lame Wolcott&#8217;s rantings are. This guy is a paid writer for a major magazine??</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t expect to agree with the guy, but I certainly didn&#8217;t expect there to be strings of vitriol against people like Glenn Reynolds and Roger Simon. I mean, these guys aren&#8217;t exactly Rush Limbaugh&#8230; Wolcott has the sort of rage toward them you expect to see directed only toward people like, well, the 9/11 hijackers, for example.</p>
<p>Further sad proof, I guess, that there really is no room for diversity of opinion among the left anymore.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3355</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Left?Liberal rage at apostates? No way! Seriously it can be vitriolic when a person dares go against the party line ! As an old Leftist I know first hand that this happens a lot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left?Liberal rage at apostates? No way! Seriously it can be vitriolic when a person dares go against the party line ! As an old Leftist I know first hand that this happens a lot.</p>
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		By: camojack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/08/11/more-circle-dancing/#comment-3356</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My friend Susan is into &lt;I&gt;square&lt;/I&gt; dancing, and my sister Debbie likes &lt;I&gt;&lt;B&gt;line&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt; dancing. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for myself, I can do a fairly impressive &lt;B&gt;Limbo&lt;/B&gt;...not to be confused with Limbaugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend Susan is into <i>square</i> dancing, and my sister Debbie likes <i><b>line</b></i> dancing. </p>
<p>As for myself, I can do a fairly impressive <b>Limbo</b>&#8230;not to be confused with Limbaugh.</p>
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