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		By: Karen Treanor		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/16/neo-neocons-handy-guide-to-northern/#comment-30535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen Treanor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 06:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re the umbrella thing, I&#039;m a New Englander with roots back to 1631, now resident in Western Australia.   We get heavy winter rain here, (when we&#039;re lucky) and I own two umbrellas, but I could probably count on  the fingers of two hands the number of times I&#039;ve had the bumbershoots up in the past 30 years.  It must be genetic.  Re the &#039;you&#039;re still a stranger&#039; thing, my husband was back in NE Mass for a visit a few years ago, around about the time of our Silver Wedding Anniversary,  and reports overhearing in the general store one old patriarch saying to another &quot;Thet&#039;s the boy thet married the Waters (pronounced &#039;Wattuhs&#039;) gel&quot;.   My husband is, of course a foreigner, coming as he does from a town at least six miles from that store.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re the umbrella thing, I&#8217;m a New Englander with roots back to 1631, now resident in Western Australia.   We get heavy winter rain here, (when we&#8217;re lucky) and I own two umbrellas, but I could probably count on  the fingers of two hands the number of times I&#8217;ve had the bumbershoots up in the past 30 years.  It must be genetic.  Re the &#8216;you&#8217;re still a stranger&#8217; thing, my husband was back in NE Mass for a visit a few years ago, around about the time of our Silver Wedding Anniversary,  and reports overhearing in the general store one old patriarch saying to another &#8220;Thet&#8217;s the boy thet married the Waters (pronounced &#8216;Wattuhs&#8217;) gel&#8221;.   My husband is, of course a foreigner, coming as he does from a town at least six miles from that store.</p>
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		By: Jay Solo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/16/neo-neocons-handy-guide-to-northern/#comment-1848</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Solo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ginger ice cream is the best!  Peaceful Meadows used to have that as flavor of the month each June, but I am not sure they ever make it anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginger ice cream is the best!  Peaceful Meadows used to have that as flavor of the month each June, but I am not sure they ever make it anymore.</p>
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		By: sygamel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/16/neo-neocons-handy-guide-to-northern/#comment-1849</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sygamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I lost what little accent I had when I when to school in southern Cal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost what little accent I had when I when to school in southern Cal.</p>
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		By: gatorbait		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/16/neo-neocons-handy-guide-to-northern/#comment-1850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gatorbait]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Y&#039;all, when ah go tuh Noo Englund, them folks alwayz say ah got en axcint, ah say, nosuh, yew got th&#039; axcint. ah still am knot tew shure whut them yankees are sayin&#039;, though.. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;They shure don wave lahk ah dew, but then, they hev en axcint, yew kno...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bah th&#039; way, them folks think salt &#039;n&#039; peppah ar spices. Whut kin they be a&#039; thinkin&#039;? They dew hev sum fahn Ice Cream, tho...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all, when ah go tuh Noo Englund, them folks alwayz say ah got en axcint, ah say, nosuh, yew got th&#8217; axcint. ah still am knot tew shure whut them yankees are sayin&#8217;, though.. </p>
<p>They shure don wave lahk ah dew, but then, they hev en axcint, yew kno&#8230;</p>
<p>Bah th&#8217; way, them folks think salt &#8216;n&#8217; peppah ar spices. Whut kin they be a&#8217; thinkin&#8217;? They dew hev sum fahn Ice Cream, tho&#8230;</p>
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		By: sygamel		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/16/neo-neocons-handy-guide-to-northern/#comment-1851</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sygamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Do you think Fact C is related to the elitist strain that runs through what is passing for libralism these days?&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;New England&#039;s been like that forever, back to when this area was conservative.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you think Fact C is related to the elitist strain that runs through what is passing for libralism these days?</i></p>
<p>New England&#8217;s been like that forever, back to when this area was conservative.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(I love your blog.  I discovered it only a week or so ago, but everything I&#039;ve read so far is very good.  Thank you.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fact A: New Englanders don&#039;t use umbrellas.&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, well, I own an umbrella.  At least I used to.  It&#039;s around here somewhere.  I can&#039;t use it because when it really rains the wind is about 40 miles an hour, and the umbrella would never survive.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fact B: New Englanders don&#039;t use garages.&lt;BR/&gt;Oh, yeah.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fact C: If you weren&#039;t born here, forget about it.&lt;BR/&gt;Yes, I&#039;ve lived in NH for about 17 years, and I&#039;m still &quot;the new guy&quot;.  I&#039;m from the South, but my Mom&#039;s family is from Minnesota.  When people talk about last year&#039;s winter being tough, I just laugh.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fact D: Women mow the lawns.&lt;BR/&gt;Not all of them, of course, but a lot of them do.  And it is striking to see.  I think that New England girls, like MN girls, are pretty tough.  When the men are away, they have to plow the driveway, rake the roof, and hack the ice dams. Summer-time yard work is nothing.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(One of my first memories after moving up here was driving by a little girl waiting for the school bus.  It was probably 10-15 degrees with a pretty good breeze blowing.  She was dressed in a short skirt and a little jacket, leaning against a snow bank.  Only the strong survive.)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fact E: New Englanders love ice cream.&lt;BR/&gt;Big time.  I personally don&#039;t eat much ice cream, but then again I&#039;m not a native.  With some, it&#039;s almost an obsession.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I love your blog.  I discovered it only a week or so ago, but everything I&#8217;ve read so far is very good.  Thank you.)</p>
<p>Fact A: New Englanders don&#8217;t use umbrellas.<br />Yes, well, I own an umbrella.  At least I used to.  It&#8217;s around here somewhere.  I can&#8217;t use it because when it really rains the wind is about 40 miles an hour, and the umbrella would never survive.</p>
<p>Fact B: New Englanders don&#8217;t use garages.<br />Oh, yeah.</p>
<p>Fact C: If you weren&#8217;t born here, forget about it.<br />Yes, I&#8217;ve lived in NH for about 17 years, and I&#8217;m still &#8220;the new guy&#8221;.  I&#8217;m from the South, but my Mom&#8217;s family is from Minnesota.  When people talk about last year&#8217;s winter being tough, I just laugh.</p>
<p>Fact D: Women mow the lawns.<br />Not all of them, of course, but a lot of them do.  And it is striking to see.  I think that New England girls, like MN girls, are pretty tough.  When the men are away, they have to plow the driveway, rake the roof, and hack the ice dams. Summer-time yard work is nothing.</p>
<p>(One of my first memories after moving up here was driving by a little girl waiting for the school bus.  It was probably 10-15 degrees with a pretty good breeze blowing.  She was dressed in a short skirt and a little jacket, leaning against a snow bank.  Only the strong survive.)</p>
<p>Fact E: New Englanders love ice cream.<br />Big time.  I personally don&#8217;t eat much ice cream, but then again I&#8217;m not a native.  With some, it&#8217;s almost an obsession.</p>
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		By: Renee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Renee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My experience with New Englanders is limited to expats who have migrated to the sunbelt, and I&#039;m happy to report that anyone can become a Texan, if they have the right attitude and the gumption for it. That&#039;s why George HW Bush will never be a Texan, but &quot;W&quot; is as Texan as it gets. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do you think Fact C is related to the elitist strain that runs through what is passing for libralism these days?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A lot of it, from their position on school vouchers to smart growth policies, which are really no growth, seem steeped in an us vs. them mentality that is focused on preseving the status quo for the benefit those who&#039;ve already got their&#039;s and keeping both the less fortunate and the new money at arms length.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with New Englanders is limited to expats who have migrated to the sunbelt, and I&#8217;m happy to report that anyone can become a Texan, if they have the right attitude and the gumption for it. That&#8217;s why George HW Bush will never be a Texan, but &#8220;W&#8221; is as Texan as it gets. </p>
<p>Do you think Fact C is related to the elitist strain that runs through what is passing for libralism these days?</p>
<p>A lot of it, from their position on school vouchers to smart growth policies, which are really no growth, seem steeped in an us vs. them mentality that is focused on preseving the status quo for the benefit those who&#8217;ve already got their&#8217;s and keeping both the less fortunate and the new money at arms length.</p>
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		By: sygamel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sygamel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Vermount is no longer a constituent member, and is today some freak rump outpost of...the lost tribes of Nyawk.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;lmao]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Vermount is no longer a constituent member, and is today some freak rump outpost of&#8230;the lost tribes of Nyawk.</i></p>
<p>lmao</p>
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		By: Red Lief		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/16/neo-neocons-handy-guide-to-northern/#comment-1855</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Red Lief]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know, neo.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You&#039;re on to a few things, a recalibration required for others.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am a born and contented Swamp Yankee from Massachusetts, by way of Maritime expats from the one time Great White North.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am not a liberal (was one briefly, before muggings, divorce, and giving up medicinal jane), and so detest the politics of this Staat, but I can attest that there is much of Old New England still extant heeyah, and even in gorgeous and corrupt Little Rhody.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Spend some Summer time among the natives along Duxbury Beach, or fishing off Cohasset, or sun-shiney drinking in Newport and Jamestown and Middletown, and know that this is our Ancient Home, without parallel or comparison.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One could be misled, however, when hearing the Rhody accent. It sounds Nyawk, but its speakers are Yanqui, without any doubt.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Let me re-Staat, I despise the politics, but I would choose no other place to live.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You are correct about Connecticut, however. It is an extended suburb of New York.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am a male and have always mowed the lawn. Until the divorce, that is. Then I mowed two lawns.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Umbrellas? I use them, when not already attired in a canvas baseball cap.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Garage? Wish I had one, to put my stuff.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ice Cream? Most certainly. But not commie Nyawk flatlandah Ben and Jerry stuff, but Far-Far&#039;s, and Scoops, and once upon a time, Bliss Brothers and Newport Creamery.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Northern New England?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A strange and magical place, where many a heavenly Summer week passed. Vermount is no longer a constituent member, and is today some freak rump outpost of atheist Quebec and the lost tribes of Nyawk.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Way Down East?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Won&#039;t tell ya bout it, cuz ya might go theyya.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, neo.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re on to a few things, a recalibration required for others.</p>
<p>I am a born and contented Swamp Yankee from Massachusetts, by way of Maritime expats from the one time Great White North.</p>
<p>I am not a liberal (was one briefly, before muggings, divorce, and giving up medicinal jane), and so detest the politics of this Staat, but I can attest that there is much of Old New England still extant heeyah, and even in gorgeous and corrupt Little Rhody.</p>
<p>Spend some Summer time among the natives along Duxbury Beach, or fishing off Cohasset, or sun-shiney drinking in Newport and Jamestown and Middletown, and know that this is our Ancient Home, without parallel or comparison.</p>
<p>One could be misled, however, when hearing the Rhody accent. It sounds Nyawk, but its speakers are Yanqui, without any doubt.</p>
<p>Let me re-Staat, I despise the politics, but I would choose no other place to live.</p>
<p>You are correct about Connecticut, however. It is an extended suburb of New York.</p>
<p>I am a male and have always mowed the lawn. Until the divorce, that is. Then I mowed two lawns.</p>
<p>Umbrellas? I use them, when not already attired in a canvas baseball cap.</p>
<p>Garage? Wish I had one, to put my stuff.</p>
<p>Ice Cream? Most certainly. But not commie Nyawk flatlandah Ben and Jerry stuff, but Far-Far&#8217;s, and Scoops, and once upon a time, Bliss Brothers and Newport Creamery.</p>
<p>Northern New England?</p>
<p>A strange and magical place, where many a heavenly Summer week passed. Vermount is no longer a constituent member, and is today some freak rump outpost of atheist Quebec and the lost tribes of Nyawk.</p>
<p>Way Down East?</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t tell ya bout it, cuz ya might go theyya.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I need some tech help--I changed the comments settings so that the date showed for each comment as well as the time, but it only lasted for a little while.  Now it&#039;s back to the way it used to be--just the time shows.  I changed it several times, and each time, after a short while, the settings spontaneously changed back so that only the time shows.  Does anyone have any idea how to make the new settings stay?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need some tech help&#8211;I changed the comments settings so that the date showed for each comment as well as the time, but it only lasted for a little while.  Now it&#8217;s back to the way it used to be&#8211;just the time shows.  I changed it several times, and each time, after a short while, the settings spontaneously changed back so that only the time shows.  Does anyone have any idea how to make the new settings stay?</p>
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