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		By: real estate expert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/15/coming-home-vietnam-and-other-vets/#comment-1818</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the year prior to Hurricane Wilma, which ripped through south Florida  in October, 2005, 64 homes had new owners at the &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.boca-candlewood.com/index.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boca  Country Club&lt;/A&gt;. If you&#039;re interested in real estate, a snapshot of the present may show the Housing Bubble has already popped. &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.boca-candlewood.com&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read more ...&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the year prior to Hurricane Wilma, which ripped through south Florida  in October, 2005, 64 homes had new owners at the <a HREF="http://www.boca-candlewood.com/index.html" REL="nofollow">Boca  Country Club</a>. If you&#8217;re interested in real estate, a snapshot of the present may show the Housing Bubble has already popped. <a HREF="http://www.boca-candlewood.com" REL="nofollow">read more &#8230;</a></p>
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		By: Scott Arthur Edwards		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/15/coming-home-vietnam-and-other-vets/#comment-1819</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: jacko492		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/15/coming-home-vietnam-and-other-vets/#comment-1820</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I started posting some pictures I had taken in 1968 while in Vietnam and added some captions. I&#039;m not selling anything and came to your site for some ideas. Nice job and unique to say the least. Take a look if you get a chance. ---Jack--- &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://vietnaminpictures.blogspot.com/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vietnam war history&lt;/A&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started posting some pictures I had taken in 1968 while in Vietnam and added some captions. I&#8217;m not selling anything and came to your site for some ideas. Nice job and unique to say the least. Take a look if you get a chance. &#8212;Jack&#8212; <a HREF="http://vietnaminpictures.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">vietnam war history</a></p>
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		By: Kalroy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2005/06/15/coming-home-vietnam-and-other-vets/#comment-1821</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My belated two cents.  I think a part of it is a &quot;never again&quot; attitude on the part of veterans and people who failed to speak up during the Vietnam war.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You&#039;ve got veterans who refuse to allow today&#039;s GI&#039;s to suffer what they suffered.  You&#039;ve got veterans who refuse to allow today&#039;s GI&#039;s to suffer what their fathers suffered.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;You&#039;ve also got civillian non-veterans who were quiet during the vilification and demonization of the military during the end of the Vietnam war, and I think that they have decided to speak up this time and refuse to be cowed or be quiet.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I don&#039;t think those are the only reasons, of course, but I do think they have a large part of this picture.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Kalroy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My belated two cents.  I think a part of it is a &#8220;never again&#8221; attitude on the part of veterans and people who failed to speak up during the Vietnam war.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve got veterans who refuse to allow today&#8217;s GI&#8217;s to suffer what they suffered.  You&#8217;ve got veterans who refuse to allow today&#8217;s GI&#8217;s to suffer what their fathers suffered.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve also got civillian non-veterans who were quiet during the vilification and demonization of the military during the end of the Vietnam war, and I think that they have decided to speak up this time and refuse to be cowed or be quiet.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think those are the only reasons, of course, but I do think they have a large part of this picture.</p>
<p>Kalroy</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the Stockholm syndrome and the useful fool (aka useful idiot) syndrome are both prretty common.  Though the latter is not often thought of as a psychological syndrome I think it is anyway.  It shuld be called the naive useful fool syndrome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Stockholm syndrome and the useful fool (aka useful idiot) syndrome are both prretty common.  Though the latter is not often thought of as a psychological syndrome I think it is anyway.  It shuld be called the naive useful fool syndrome.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I understand your point, mytwocents, but you might want to consider &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;lr=&amp;oi=defmore&amp;q=define:useful+idiot&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this historical use of the word &quot;idiot&quot;&lt;/A&gt; to describe leftists who sympathize with totalitarian states.  The term was supposedly coined by Lenin (or perhaps that&#039;s apochryphal).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand your point, mytwocents, but you might want to consider <a HREF="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&#038;lr=&#038;oi=defmore&#038;q=define:useful+idiot" REL="nofollow">this historical use of the word &#8220;idiot&#8221;</a> to describe leftists who sympathize with totalitarian states.  The term was supposedly coined by Lenin (or perhaps that&#8217;s apochryphal).</p>
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		By: mytwocents		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First, let me say that I meant no harm in saying ‘the likes of.”  I wrote the post rather quickly, and now that you point it out, “the likes of” does have a rather negative connotation. I apologize. My point in the post was simply to point out that I appreciate witnessing the kind of exchanges we see between “the likes of” Minh Duc and “the likes of” Ho Chi Minh (sorry, couldn’t help myself).  The name calling doesn’t add any value for me.  I appreciate your blog for it’s central premise, which I understand to be about how your beliefs have been transformed, at least with regard to national security issues, and the process it took to get to that place.  To simply shoot down oppositional voices with insults seems so far from what you are about, at least to me.  I imagine it took great effort on your part to tune out the insults hurled by your liberal friends regarding voices from the right.  Ho Chi Minh doesn’t seem like a complete wacko (oops, there goes an insult).  He seems educated, informed, and articulate, despite having very different views from most folks who post in your comments, including myself.  “Pernicious is a great word, but “idiot” connotes ignorant, mentally deficient, inferior, foolish, stupid.  Now, I may scream this word at my television or people in traffic all the time, but I like the important stuff to be smarter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, let me say that I meant no harm in saying ‘the likes of.”  I wrote the post rather quickly, and now that you point it out, “the likes of” does have a rather negative connotation. I apologize. My point in the post was simply to point out that I appreciate witnessing the kind of exchanges we see between “the likes of” Minh Duc and “the likes of” Ho Chi Minh (sorry, couldn’t help myself).  The name calling doesn’t add any value for me.  I appreciate your blog for it’s central premise, which I understand to be about how your beliefs have been transformed, at least with regard to national security issues, and the process it took to get to that place.  To simply shoot down oppositional voices with insults seems so far from what you are about, at least to me.  I imagine it took great effort on your part to tune out the insults hurled by your liberal friends regarding voices from the right.  Ho Chi Minh doesn’t seem like a complete wacko (oops, there goes an insult).  He seems educated, informed, and articulate, despite having very different views from most folks who post in your comments, including myself.  “Pernicious is a great word, but “idiot” connotes ignorant, mentally deficient, inferior, foolish, stupid.  Now, I may scream this word at my television or people in traffic all the time, but I like the important stuff to be smarter.</p>
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		By: THIRDWAVEDAVE		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Minh put everything in perspective with his last comment.  Yes, it seems to be the price of doing business in the world of socialists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Minh put everything in perspective with his last comment.  Yes, it seems to be the price of doing business in the world of socialists.</p>
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		By: Minh-Duc		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[To both Alex and Neo-Neocon&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I usually do not respond to someone like Ho.  And I apologize for taking over Neo-Neocon post.  But I could not help but find that Ho Chi Minh (the commenter) exceedingly annoying and arrogant.  He simply brushed off grave injustice as an acceptable cost - part of the process toward socialism. The absense of humanity and compassion is simply shocking. Of course my respond is intense because it is a issue of great emotional value to me, something that Ho simply cannot comprehend.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To both Alex and Neo-Neocon</p>
<p>I usually do not respond to someone like Ho.  And I apologize for taking over Neo-Neocon post.  But I could not help but find that Ho Chi Minh (the commenter) exceedingly annoying and arrogant.  He simply brushed off grave injustice as an acceptable cost &#8211; part of the process toward socialism. The absense of humanity and compassion is simply shocking. Of course my respond is intense because it is a issue of great emotional value to me, something that Ho simply cannot comprehend.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[my two cents: I&#039;m curious what you meant by &quot;the likes of Minh Duc.&quot;  I agree with you about name-calling as a rule, but &quot;the likes of Minh Duc&quot; sounds perilously close to name-calling to me (unless I&#039;m misunderstanding your meaning, which is certainly possible).  But name-calling is going to happen on blogs, and as long as it doesn&#039;t really degenerate, it&#039;s an inextricable part of the blogging genre.  Emotions are very high about these topics, and though we&#039;re just reading words on a computer screen, we&#039;re discussing deep life and death issues.      &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As far as Ho goes--I respect his right to &quot;go at&quot; whomever he wants, even though I disagree with him, as long as he doesn&#039;t cross over into troll territory (he borders on it, but so far has not entered it).  But I actually found the incredibly condescending manner in which he treated Minh Duc quite disturbing.  Although I choose to be polite on my blog, I don&#039;t think that terms such as &quot;pernicious idiot&quot; (&quot;pernicious&quot; meaning &quot;exceedingly harmful,&quot; and &quot;idiot&quot; as in the phrase &quot;useful idiot,&quot; meaning &quot;a person who makes excuses for totalitarian leftist states and is thus passively complicit in their wrongdoings) is very far out of line at all.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Minh Duc has in fact had experiences in the areas about which Ho spouts some incredibly naive and relativistic verbiage.  The thread in question is &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/06/village-voice-gets-it-right-and-so.html#comments&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;.  I wonder why Ho decided to use Ho Chi Minh as a nickname; I assume it&#039;s because he&#039;s some sort of hero of his.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ho (the commenter, not the historical figure), is the sort of person whom David Horowitz was describing when said the following, &lt;I&gt;if [they] were to pause for a moment and then plunge their busy political minds into the human legacies of their activist pasts, they would instantly drown in an ocean of blood.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for the caliber of Ho&#039;s arguments, I&#039;m with &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/06/dr-sanity-on-terrorists-and-press.html#c111894948748132283&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this commenter&lt;/A&gt; on another thread.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my two cents: I&#8217;m curious what you meant by &#8220;the likes of Minh Duc.&#8221;  I agree with you about name-calling as a rule, but &#8220;the likes of Minh Duc&#8221; sounds perilously close to name-calling to me (unless I&#8217;m misunderstanding your meaning, which is certainly possible).  But name-calling is going to happen on blogs, and as long as it doesn&#8217;t really degenerate, it&#8217;s an inextricable part of the blogging genre.  Emotions are very high about these topics, and though we&#8217;re just reading words on a computer screen, we&#8217;re discussing deep life and death issues.      </p>
<p>As far as Ho goes&#8211;I respect his right to &#8220;go at&#8221; whomever he wants, even though I disagree with him, as long as he doesn&#8217;t cross over into troll territory (he borders on it, but so far has not entered it).  But I actually found the incredibly condescending manner in which he treated Minh Duc quite disturbing.  Although I choose to be polite on my blog, I don&#8217;t think that terms such as &#8220;pernicious idiot&#8221; (&#8220;pernicious&#8221; meaning &#8220;exceedingly harmful,&#8221; and &#8220;idiot&#8221; as in the phrase &#8220;useful idiot,&#8221; meaning &#8220;a person who makes excuses for totalitarian leftist states and is thus passively complicit in their wrongdoings) is very far out of line at all.  </p>
<p>Minh Duc has in fact had experiences in the areas about which Ho spouts some incredibly naive and relativistic verbiage.  The thread in question is <a HREF="http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/06/village-voice-gets-it-right-and-so.html#comments" REL="nofollow">here</a>.  I wonder why Ho decided to use Ho Chi Minh as a nickname; I assume it&#8217;s because he&#8217;s some sort of hero of his.  </p>
<p>Ho (the commenter, not the historical figure), is the sort of person whom David Horowitz was describing when said the following, <i>if [they] were to pause for a moment and then plunge their busy political minds into the human legacies of their activist pasts, they would instantly drown in an ocean of blood.</i></p>
<p>As for the caliber of Ho&#8217;s arguments, I&#8217;m with <a HREF="http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2005/06/dr-sanity-on-terrorists-and-press.html#c111894948748132283" REL="nofollow">this commenter</a> on another thread.</p>
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